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  • WraithGear@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    You are weighing lives of a future you cannot see or know. I can just as easily declare that forcing the Democratic Party to enact progressive legislation by risking their hold on power will have far reaching effects that will save more lives then those extra lost by a trump presidency. Remember that for this genocide to even happen the US had to enable it, and we did so 100% under Biden. I believe there was little else more trump could have done to make this worse. Biden prevented possible peace talks with his vetos. So i am not going to take your word on this genocide, Biden has done more than enough. No a trump presidency would be worse than another Biden’s for a million other reasons.

    But the question is, in the long term, like a decade out, would righting the democratic course be better for all, even with the high cost of trump as president? Because when would they do it otherwise?

    You can ask if i am just an anomaly, an outsider left, who prophesied either tyranny or revolution . Or am i the canary in the coal mine voicing a discontent that plagues the hearts of a large amount of people? I couldn’t tell you. We may have to wait and see.

    But the more i think about it the more i am convinced. There must be change, one way or another. I just hope the frog isn’t boiled to death before it’s forced upon us. And my only outlet for that change is my vote. And i hope i get to vote for Biden

    • lennybird@lemmy.world
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      7 months ago

      I can just as easily declare that forcing the Democratic Party to enact progressive legislation by risking their hold on power will have far reaching effects that will save more lives then those extra lost by a trump presidency.

      I don’t find this comparable because because nobody can force the Democratic party to enact progressive legislation because this is contingent on these policies people popular among the majority of people, which they simply are not yet. In other words, you need to convince more of the electorate before you can even shift this. Whereas in my case, the future is set in stone: We will either have Trump, or we will have Biden. What’s more is Democrats literally CAN’T enact such progressive legislation because Republicans are obstructing any progress anyway, so I really have no clue what you’re saying here. Get Republicans out of the way, then Democrats would’ve implemented massive progressive policy long ago.

      Remember that for this genocide to even happen the US had to enable it, and we did so 100% under Biden.

      That’s not even remotely true, though. Consider Israel just starts pivoting into Russia or China’s sphere of influence and we lose any influence we have over Israel altogether. You think Israel can’t get weapons from elsewhere…? If anything, abandoning Israel too rapidly may have the entire opposite effect that you intend because now we have nothing to hold over them.

      Let’s again not forget the dire consequences to Ukraine where genocide is largely being prevented by Democratic support to Ukraine (and nevertheless obstructed by Republicans) – and if Trump gets in, all aid is guaranteed to stop. So now you’ve got 2 genocides on your hands.

      I hope when November comes we all vote for Biden lest we double-down on a downward spiral of entropy and doom generations to come as we take not just 1 step back, but 100 steps back and have to pick up the pieces of the puzzle yet again. For the sake of Ukrainians; for the sake of Palestinians; for the sake of my kids – everyone is holding their breath in hope of keeping some semblance of sanity in power lest we get the off-the-wall batshit crazy lunatics openly promoting a fascist playbook.