• mightysashiman@kbin.social
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    the 2 common culprits in all these horrible stories are: 1) human stupidity 2) gun proliferation. solving the first would require eugenism. solving the second is a big american no-no. So don’t call it horrible, just live with it. It’s just a normal by-product of american culture.

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      IMHO solving 1 needed educations, but that’s also a big American no-no, so we’re back to square one.

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        IMHO solving 1 needed educations, but that’s also a big American no-no

        No it’s not. For all of their ills, stupidity, nonsense, fraud, and extremely questionable decisions the NRA does run education campaigns with their “Eddie Eagle” program. A big problem is that it has been kicked out of schools, especially schools in Blue States, so they’re unable to reach one of the audiences that need it the most.

        It’s like Red States kicking Sex Education out of schools and being shocked at teen pregnancies. Education works far better than restriction. Always.

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      Why would the gun be loaded? At the very least the gun and the ammo should be separated.

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        Separating ammo isn’t actually securing the firearm though. Loaded or unloaded it should still be property secured. And you can safely store a fire loaded if the firearm is actually in some kind of safe. The parents were simply negligent.

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        The better question is why was a handgun needed? People shouldn’t buy deadly weapons for fun.

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          Most people buy a handgun like that for self-defense. Likely because they don’t expect the cops to show up and protect them. And there isn’t anything wrong with owning something dangerous if it’s property secured and used safely. These parents were negligent.

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                Possibly in the rarest of circumstances. Doesn’t sound like a deadly weapon, though. And I’ve never heard of such case.

                On the other hand, quick search shows these headlines:

                • 1-year-old boy accidentally shot by 4-year-old brother in Texas
                • 7-year-old accidentally shoots and kills 5-year-old in Kentucky
                • Jacksonville police: Boy, 8, accidentally shoots, kills sister, 5, injures neighbor, 4
                • ‘Another tragic story’: 3-year old girl accidentally shoots and kills 4-year-old sister in Houston
                • Family grieves after daughter accidentally shot to death by 7-years-old brother
                • 10-year-old charged with accidentally shooting his 12-year-old brother
                • 14-year-old boy accidentally shoots brother, 8, outside Oklahoma Walmart
                • Police: 14-Year-Old ‘Accidentally Shoots’ 12-Year-Old Brother In Choctaw
                • 5-year-old accidentally shoots, kills little sister in Indiana

                This is just the first page of results and all of that is from 2023.

                So, were you saying something about choking on maple leaves?

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                  I’ll keep asking the same question -

                  If these were knife accidents, would you support banning knives?

                  This sounds like parental neglect, and should be treated as such. The tool doesn’t matter, it’s the fact the parents neglected the safety of their kids.

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                    I normally would not interject in this type of conversation, but your question about the knives keeps coming up and seems to imply people don’t have knives. I can almost guarantee every home in the USA has at least one sharp knife. These aren’t knife accidents and everyone has a knife in the house. Not every house has a gun. The knife question only makes sense if knives weren’t even more common household items then guns.

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                    And from now on I’ll keep ignoring you unless you ask a different question, because I already answered that one.

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      Solving the first would require the end of human existence. You can’t breed out stupidity, eugenics doesn’t solve anything.