Kyle Rittenhouse’s sister Faith is seeking $3,000 on a crowdfunding website in a bid to prevent the eviction of herself and her mother Wendy from their home, citing her “brother’s unwillingness to provide or contribute to our family.”

  • TheFonz@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    Sigh. This type of epistemic analysis leads to monological thinking and is why the Kenosha riots had no grounding to begin with. More people will die if we just dilute every fact to dismiss narratives we don’t like and it will lead to more violence and hate.

    I don’t like conservatives either but we have to ground discourse in facts not feelings.

    • He’s a murderer
    • Judge was biased
    • It was premeditated

    None of this was proven but we can just handwave it like nothing else matters. After a while we are all going to start living in parallel epistemic bubbles.

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      4 months ago

      He was not asked to be there- had no business there. And was on tape saying he wanted to kill people.

      A court only determines guilt or innocence from a legal standpoint. It doesn’t change the events retroactively to make them not happen.

      He’s a murderer. By definition.

      Following your logic, OJ was also innocent, right?

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        4 months ago

        If you want to have a discussion on the moral ethics of his actions: that’s fine; Plenty to criticize.

        If you want to have a discussion on the legal merits of the case, that’s fine too, but you need to be at least somewhat aware of the facts beyond verbal statements that preceded the shooting. OJ (although a cherry picked data point does not prove a point) is a fine example of the judicial system working as intended even though the defendent was guilty.

        To summarize: These are two separate conversations (legal vs moral). I’ve noticed that whenever Kyle is brought up, as lefties we tend to hop back and forth between the two (sort of in the way you are doing --I can’t tell if it’s intentional–) to muddy the discussion or get some type of gotcha. It’s not productive.