• @Saledovil
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        22 months ago

        Suffering is inherent to the human condition. Is it okay to undertake actions that cause people suffering?

          • @Saledovil
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            22 months ago

            I’m taking an utilitarian approach. Suffering should be avoided, and happiness maximized. Bringing another being into existence guarantees suffering, with a chance of creating happiness. That is not a gamble you should take on behalf of another being.

            • @[email protected]
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              22 months ago

              Is the potential (or guarantee) for suffering greater than the potential for joy? You also have to account for the joy of the person and the joy they create. I believe the potential for expected joy exceeds the guarantee of suffering.

            • @[email protected]
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              12 months ago

              Suffering should be avoided, and happiness maximized.

              This sounds like optimizing two variables. What’s the weighting here?

    • @Saledovil
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      22 months ago

      What previous status quo are antinatalists trying to return to? “Reactionary” is just the left wing equivalent of “woke”.

      • OBJECTION!
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        32 months ago

        I suppose the previous status quo that anti-natalists want to return to is before the evolution of intelligent life. Word is still out on whether it’s immoral for single-celled organisms to reproduce.