… it’s what you fucking asked for. You wanted examples. That’s what they’d look like: the direct results of how a personality disorder negatively affects someone’s decision-making. In this particular case, The Idiot’s bottomless egocentrism, mixed with a life of consequence-free privilege, produced a lifelong spree of banks that won’t touch him, organizations he’s legally barred from running, and former lawyers / spouses / co-conspirators loudly warning the world that he’s shallow, self-obsessed, emotionally fragile, vengeful, and incapable of modeling people as unlike himself, to such a degree that he would be in prison forever if he was not effectively above the law.
Do you think it’s fundamentally impossible for someone to have a personality disorder, if they’re rich enough to escape consequences?
Do you think it’s fundamentally impossible for someone to have a personality disorder, if they’re rich enough to escape consequences?
Not fundamentally, but practically often yes. Neurodivergence is, after all, socially constructed. Social disabilities exist in relation to a social context. If society adequately accommodates a person such that their differences do not cause problems, then they’re not disabled. Now, describing being rich as “adequate accommodation” is perhaps an inappropriate use of language, but in a literal sense that’s the case. Trump’s money, fame, and whiteness erase his cognitive differences. Trump isn’t neurodivergent, because his mind is not different to what society expects of powerful white men. He is thinking exactly the way society expects him to. This is a very severe difference to the daily experiences of a poor, underprivileged person with NPD who actually suffers and who would personally benefit from therapy. Trump wouldn’t benefit, he’s already “on top of the world”, as it were. That’s why diagnosis has no point with him.
Then I don’t care what you mean when you bicker about these words.
You can’t freely bounce between hyperfixation on internal state (like whether a bipolar person after a visible manic episode might want to kill themselves during the predictable depressive slump) and how cushy life is toward people having these brain problems.
He is thinking exactly the way society expects him to.
He’s a career criminal who recently survived an assassination attempt presumably related to his failed coup d’etat.
And he has visible brain problems. He’s a moron and an asshole in very specific and predictable ways, for which we have labels. Some of them are clinically relevant - some of them are just clear shorthand for common problems.
‘We expect rich people to act like they have a personality disorder’ is not the tut you think it is.
I didn’t want to quote the second half of that sentence because it was too gross.
… it’s what you fucking asked for. You wanted examples. That’s what they’d look like: the direct results of how a personality disorder negatively affects someone’s decision-making. In this particular case, The Idiot’s bottomless egocentrism, mixed with a life of consequence-free privilege, produced a lifelong spree of banks that won’t touch him, organizations he’s legally barred from running, and former lawyers / spouses / co-conspirators loudly warning the world that he’s shallow, self-obsessed, emotionally fragile, vengeful, and incapable of modeling people as unlike himself, to such a degree that he would be in prison forever if he was not effectively above the law.
Do you think it’s fundamentally impossible for someone to have a personality disorder, if they’re rich enough to escape consequences?
Not fundamentally, but practically often yes. Neurodivergence is, after all, socially constructed. Social disabilities exist in relation to a social context. If society adequately accommodates a person such that their differences do not cause problems, then they’re not disabled. Now, describing being rich as “adequate accommodation” is perhaps an inappropriate use of language, but in a literal sense that’s the case. Trump’s money, fame, and whiteness erase his cognitive differences. Trump isn’t neurodivergent, because his mind is not different to what society expects of powerful white men. He is thinking exactly the way society expects him to. This is a very severe difference to the daily experiences of a poor, underprivileged person with NPD who actually suffers and who would personally benefit from therapy. Trump wouldn’t benefit, he’s already “on top of the world”, as it were. That’s why diagnosis has no point with him.
Then I don’t care what you mean when you bicker about these words.
You can’t freely bounce between hyperfixation on internal state (like whether a bipolar person after a visible manic episode might want to kill themselves during the predictable depressive slump) and how cushy life is toward people having these brain problems.
He’s a career criminal who recently survived an assassination attempt presumably related to his failed coup d’etat.
And he has visible brain problems. He’s a moron and an asshole in very specific and predictable ways, for which we have labels. Some of them are clinically relevant - some of them are just clear shorthand for common problems.
‘We expect rich people to act like they have a personality disorder’ is not the tut you think it is.