• DaddleDew@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    So Microsoft wants to force everyone to ditch their perfectly good machines so they can make more money off of selling OEM licenses.

    I’m just waiting for Europe to sue their greedy asses for planned obsolescence.

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        3 months ago

        Like what? I’m still using my 2011 MacBook Pro, and my phone is about six years old.

        I can’t update my 2011 MBP to the latest version of OSX, but it still works fantastically for everyday stuff. Phone can update to the next version of iOS.

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          3 months ago

          can’t update

          Yeah, that’s the problem, if your hardware can run the latest software, it should be able to update to the latest software

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            3 months ago

            It’s THIRTEEN YEARS OLD! It still functions! If it stops functioning, I can put Linux on it!

            It’s a first-gen Core i7… I don’t think the hardware would support the latest version that well, if at al.

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                3 months ago

                not even a browser

                Try Firefox maybe? Safari and Firefox work perfectly on my 13 year old MacBook… I don’t know what’s wrong with your machine.

                Edit: you can’t put Windows 11 on a 13 year old machine, that’s a straight-up lie. Mind you, not because the hardware is broken or unsupported, but because Microsoft simply refuses to allow it.

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                    3 months ago

                    Why don’t your browsers work? Mine do.

                    Also I’m still getting security updates.

                    Edit: I don’t know why I’m entertaining you? The equivalent of the latest OSX is Windows 11 and you’re saying other shit?

                    I get the APPLE BAD shit but that’s so disingenuous.

                    I don’t think you’ve ever used Apple shit

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        3 months ago

        Yeah as much as this sucks I honestly hope that Microsoft will actually take advantage of this and start moving legacy support into more specialized options.

        A lot of the reason windows is so janky at times is because of the insane obsession they have with backwards compatibility.

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          3 months ago

          False.

          I work for Microsoft and I can assure you that any effort I make to increase code quality or reduce jank (or pretty much anything other than shoving more AI in our products) will not positively impact my bonus next year.

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            3 months ago

            Are you working on Windows or another product? Also do you know why MS expects ROI for new Windows features ie. Amazon Appstore? Since Windows is a paid product (at least for OEMs) I would expect license income to sustain feature development.

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          3 months ago

          Lol, worst take I have ever heard.

          1. Windows has no purpose these days outside backwards compatibility.

          2. Windows primarily sucks because of ads and forced updates, not jank.

          3. Microsoft exclusively deals in antiquated spaghetti code, removing backwards compatibility won’t change that.

          4. Microsoft has no interest in improving users experience they have invested entirely in squeezing in micro transactions not exactly a user first design philosophy.

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      3 months ago

      At the very least, they should be releasing some “Lite” version for older hardware or something.

      It’s such a catch-22 with Linux, because you’re not going to see ads for it and most “normal” people don’t even know what it is (and that they have a viable alternative to Windows).

      I don’t want ads for Linux, but I wish there was a way to elevate it into the general public consciousness so people are aware that they even have an option. AND ITS FREE.

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      3 months ago

      While I do agree that a lot of the PCs that are deemed not compatible is really stupid, there are people that are trying to use Windows 11 on devices that have no business running it, so this is partially to prevent their devices from getting infected with a virus or something

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        I’ve lost count of how many times Microsoft, and many other big tech companies, hindered me from doing something I wanted to do on a device that I own for “security” reasons while it had absolutely nothing to do with security and everything to do with forcing their users to comply with their business model.

        DRM chips have nothing to do with device security and everything to do with further controlling what you can and cannot do on your machine and making more money off of you.

        You really shouldn’t believe the Corporate bad faith arguments used to justify anti-consumer practices.

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          3 months ago

          My job has radicalized me against windows, the settings are factory reset quite frequently due to updates or reimaging so I’m constantly resetting every single option just to get it back to a continent state (Who in their right mind thinks centered task bar icons is a good thing!?!?!)

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        3 months ago

        Since when is having vulnerable hardware the business of the operating system? Sure, they’re allowed to do whatever they want, but it’s stupid. It’s your system. You should be able to try to run any software you want on it and the software shouldn’t care (unless it just literally can’t work, not a software check to make it not work).

        I’m on Linux only though, so I may be biased. I think I own my computer and you may not agree with that.

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        3 months ago

        Why won’t they get a virus or something on Windows 10 with that same hardware?