• Gorroth@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    I am so looking forward to my daughters to become students. Definitely going to discuss this topic through with every person I have to. I am so not going to use WhatsApp or whatever similar software again. If there’s no other solution, they can call me or write a letter :D

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      Yeah but if you don’t have brightwheel or seesaw or whatever the fuck, you won’t be getting important notifications. They only only call when you’re late for pickup or your kid shit so bad you have to take them home. Some of these are tied to billing as well. Don’t want to use My School Bucks? No aftercare or cafeteria breakfast/lunch. Sack lunch only.

      It’s a huge pain but in many cases there’s no way around it.

      I’m aware the original subject matter of this post is different, but the walled garden apps that you have to use no matter what start as soon as they enter preschool

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        I don’t know any of these apps and I don’t know if they are used in Europe too, but if I really have to use some of these apps (and I understand that can absolutely happen), there will be an old/cheap phone laying around with these apps installed, they won’t be on my primary phone.

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          I concede that that may not be the case outside of the US. In my experience here, though, there’s a whole world of apps and ecosystems that schools for children use now that I’d previously never heard of.

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            Oh don’t get me wrong, we have plenty of apps used by schools, I just don’t know them (yet). But in the end I don’t want to have any of them on my - at least - primary phone.

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      In Europe Whatsapp is the default messaging system. Everything else is cumbersome. Sure Signal is better but only like 3 people have it.

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        Do what I did and send a message to everyone you care about saying “deleting whatsapp and switching to signal” or something like this.

        It’s also a good way to weed out people who aren’t important in your life, I.e people who care about you will most likely install signal to keep in touch.

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          This is the way. I had a story in WhatsApp for 3 months every day with a picture that I am going to fully switch to Signal and Threema and won’t be available over WhatsApp anymore. As you said, people who want something from me will have to jump over their shadow and write me over one of those. And it absolutely worked, took some time, but it worked. Some people even have signal installed only to text me. The rest just calls or sends SMS. I am from Europe btw. and it worked even though WhatsApp is so strongly used over here.

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            The only downside to Telegram is it is centralized and you just have to trust them with no e2e encryption. E2E encryption is device locked AFAIK. I want Matrix to be as good as Telegram, then I could just completely switch to Matrix only.

            Telegram becomes more and more popular too. They now have 800 m active users.

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              They’re going to rewrite Element Android/iOS from scratch and it’s looking cool. Desktop apps are going in great direction, with NeoChat, Fractal and Nheko, I see improvements month by month. Calls are still only good working on Element Web, hope that would change.

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                It has Telegram, Matrix, Discord and Android SMS. But I only use Telegram most of the time. And although I found open sourced bridges (backend) I didn’t found frontend. I’m not a target user anyway. But the project does have a potential.

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            This exactly. If I can’t audit whatsapp to be e2ee, it’s not.