Hatred often makes you want to hurt people, but people hurt peope in the name of greed more often, and not only with less potential for guilt, but is often the cause of delusional accolades and reassurance both from within oneself and from others.

Hypothetical:

A CEO lays off 10,000 employees that helped that company succeed, solely to increase earnings and not because the company is hurting, not only seriously hurting 9,997 people, but causing 3 to commit suicide.

A bumpkin gets in a fight with someone he hates the melanin of because he’s a moron and kills them.

Who did more damage to humanity that day? They’re both, I want to say evil but evil is subjective, they’re both highly antisocial, knowingly harmful behaviors, yet one correctly sends you to prison for a long time if not forever, while the other, far more premeditated and quite literally calculated act, is literally rewarded and partied about. Jim Kramer gives you a shout out on tv, good fucking times amirite!

Edit: and this felt relevant to post after someone tried to lecture me about equating layoffs to murder.

“Coca-Cola killed trade unionists in Latin America. General Motors built vehicles known to catch fire. Tobacco companies suppressed cancer research. And Boeing knew that its planes were dangerous. Corporations don’t care if they kill people — as long as it’s profitable.”

https://jacobin.com/2020/01/corporations-profit-values-murder-culture-boeing

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    When I hoard it’s a mental illness.

    When billionaire hoards he’s just successful.

    Bullshit

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      Hoards newspapers

      People harmed: themselves

      Society’s Verdict: Mentally ill

      Hoards capital

      People harmed: innumerable exploited employees deprived of receiving most of the value they produce.

      Society’s Verdict: virtuous job creator, titan of industry, esteemed member of the business community, role model

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        Capital cannot be hoarded, or it loses value. The entire existence of capital is tied to its use.

        Jeff Bezos does not have a vault full of money

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            Lmao it really isn’t. You have been lied to.

            If Bezos had a vault full of cash, he would be poor. His wealth is tied to his assets, and his biggest asset is the best logistics company in human history.

            Hate Bezos all ya want, but his wealth is not in cash or gold or any other hoardable thing.

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              The guy’s got multiple mega yachts and private planes. Just because it’s not all in a literal huge Scrooge McDuck vault you think this isn’t hording? Even buying a few mansions is a form of hording wealth.

              Don’t bother replying btw because I’m not really interested in an extended exchange with someone who is this big of shill or an intentionally ignorant person until they take steps to educate themselves.

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                Mega yachts and private planes provide many jobs, so how exactly is that hoarding? Rich people spending money is the literal exact opposite of “hoarding wealth.”

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                    That’s not the trickle down argument. That argument is that cutting taxes on wealthy people trickles wealth down

                    I’m for raising taxes on the 3 upper quintiles massively.

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              Oh wow. Indoctrinated much? That’s literally all wrong. In fact the dictionary defines Capital as…

              wealth in the form of money or other assets owned by a person or organization or available or contributed for a particular purpose such as starting a company or investing.

              Bezos is found is literally in a lot of those horrible things. Granted there is a lot of perceived value in his company. But even if that went belly up today he would still be a wealthy man.

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                contributed for a particular purpose such as starting a company or investing

                You really shouldn’t have skimmed that line.

                Also nothing you described is “horrible.”

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                  available or contributed for a particular purpose such as starting a company or investing

                  You missed the two words prior m8.

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                    No that’s the same thing. Making money available to someone else has the same net impact.

                    Reading is FUNdamental.

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                  I didn’t skim it. I read it with full reading comprehension of someone not indoctrinated is all. You can have political capital. Assets of any kind can also be capital. Even if you don’t give them away or use them up.

                  And I’m here to tell you. If you don’t think all the theft that bazos has perpetuated. Leaving people homeless and starving. Millions of others without housing or food security. All so he can ride penis shaped Rockets. Etc isn’t horrible. That’s your problem.

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          What he actually has are stocks in his company and other companies that are worth billions, that’s all. And rich people like him simply take out loans against their stocks and live off of the loan money. Part of the reason why they do everything to raise stock prices regardless of cost: they need more collateral to roll the loans over year after year.

          Rich people are not actually rich. They don’t actually have cash on hand like that.

          Actually most businesses aren’t really profitable like that either.

          The U.S. isn’t even as wealthy as it claims to be, not by a long shot.

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            I mean that’s still actual wealth, but yes billionaires tend to be significantly more cash-poor than is believed.

            He’s worth a lot of money. He does not have a lot of money. Important difference.

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            So then you don’t actually care about how the economy works, and are just mad you don’t have as much stuff

            I appreciate you admitting it to yourself.

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              “That’s how capitalism works.”

              “You’re right. But that’s a dumb way to do things, we should try something else.”

              “No dude you just don’t understand how capitalism works.”

              I don’t want more. I’m doing fine. I want the family where two people are working four jobs and still don’t have a month’s rent in the bank to have more. I want the money I kick into the community kitty to go to them, rather than funding multiple private space programs for multiple billionaires.

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                Idk if you’re the dude i was responding to but that is the opposite of what that person claimed to care about.

                Anyway, all of those things can be done without socialism, and I actually know for a fact that the best method is to not kneecap your economic system and just change your social safety nets. Taxing people and using it for social services is not socialism.

                Privatization of space is absolutely a good thing tho and we should subsidize the fuck out of it while still remaining revenue-positive over running the programs ourselves.

                NASA has done more amazing shit since that privatization than in like 3 decades before it, and their goals are only increasing. It’s really worked out. I was extremely unhappy when the policy was enacted but I’m happy to admit I was wrong and Obama was right.

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      1st one is Detrimental to your physical and mental health 2nd one is Detrimental to the environment and maybe their mental health (by having no relatable friends)