Corporate media and politicians lie and present biased framing to get people to hate whoever they want them to hate. We’ve seen it too many times and anytime we try to push back or ask for sources we get labelled as bots, shills, or tankies. We don’t mind criticism of any state, but we expect it to be well documented and framed in a reasonable context, and not just rumormongering.
WW2 didn’t hurt China’s life expectancy, due to the communists taking over the country piece by piece the conditions of the population improved DURING WW2. That’s how bad things were before the revolution. The conditions of a revolution, a civil war and a fascist invasion of extermination were simultaneously better than the humiliation and exploitation reaped by the British, American, and other capitalists. The life expectancy was 33 years old when Mao launched the revolution.
The maoist uprising against the landlords was the largest and most comprehensive proletarian revolution in history, and led to almost totally-equal redistribution of land among the peasantry.
Not a simp, just dont swallow US narrative as truth. Why would i trust the country that regularly tries to debt trap me? 1+1 isnt China Perfext Utopia, its 1+1 is The US is evil and untrustworthy
We’re very clear about our politics. There’s nothing to be confused about.
We’re communists, anarchists, and other socialists. Hexbear is a non-sectarian left space so there is some variation on details or by degrees but we all share a revolutionary socialist perspective. That includes support for AES states. That includes educating ourselves about AES states instead of blindly accepting western propoganda.
Nobody condones the Chinese surveilance Städte, which is very much like the US surveilance state. Nobody condones the Chinese liberalization of markets which make the Chinese economy resemble US capitalism in some regards. Nobody condones attacks on environmentalists, may they happen in China or anywhere else. So no, simp wouldn’t be a good term here
Nobody condones the Chinese liberalization of markets which make the Chinese economy resemble US capitalism in some regards.
Criticism of the decision is valid but I definitely think there were merits to it. Despite the increases in standard of living shown in my favorite graph, many Chinese were still living in extreme poverty when the reforms were initiated. According to the World Bank, more than 850 million Chinese people have been lifted out of extreme poverty, and China’s poverty rate fell from 88 percent in 1981 to 0.7 percent in 2015. And China’s rise as an economic power has allowed it to help establish an alternative economic bloc, which means now other countries can have access to foreign trade while maintaining more control of domestic policy than they would through the West.
It’s a complicated issue and I understand why some people consider it a deviation but I also understand the reasons for doing it and I think it’s met with some degree of success. I don’t think we really have an official line on it.
I wouldn’t go so far as to say “no one”, the simping i’ve seen is pretty hardcore.
I wouldn’t describe China’s economy as resembling US capitalism, but they’ve definitely gone capitalist “with Chinese characteristics”. China fucking sucks at communism, these days if not in the past.
Introducing the profit motive means the tea producers in China have had to go to quantity over quality, too, and i like my tea :(
So are y’all china simps? I’m so confused still about hexbear.
If China “simping” includes calling out propaganda then yes
A little bit, I mean they did do this:
Corporate media and politicians lie and present biased framing to get people to hate whoever they want them to hate. We’ve seen it too many times and anytime we try to push back or ask for sources we get labelled as bots, shills, or tankies. We don’t mind criticism of any state, but we expect it to be well documented and framed in a reasonable context, and not just rumormongering.
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WW2 famously lasted from the 1850s to the 1950s.
WW2 didn’t hurt China’s life expectancy, due to the communists taking over the country piece by piece the conditions of the population improved DURING WW2. That’s how bad things were before the revolution. The conditions of a revolution, a civil war and a fascist invasion of extermination were simultaneously better than the humiliation and exploitation reaped by the British, American, and other capitalists. The life expectancy was 33 years old when Mao launched the revolution.
The maoist uprising against the landlords was the largest and most comprehensive proletarian revolution in history, and led to almost totally-equal redistribution of land among the peasantry.
What many don’t know is that WWII was also known as the Hundred Years War, the linear progress of time proofs that.
Sounds like
judeo-bolshevismcultural Marxism to meVery quickly reaching levels far beyond what it was before the war, yes.
Me @ the libs: https://youtu.be/9NkkZJHova4?feature=shared
Not a simp, just dont swallow US narrative as truth. Why would i trust the country that regularly tries to debt trap me? 1+1 isnt China Perfext Utopia, its 1+1 is The US is evil and untrustworthy
Well yeah, the biggest reduction of poverty in human history will do that to ya
We’re very clear about our politics. There’s nothing to be confused about.
We’re communists, anarchists, and other socialists. Hexbear is a non-sectarian left space so there is some variation on details or by degrees but we all share a revolutionary socialist perspective. That includes support for AES states. That includes educating ourselves about AES states instead of blindly accepting western propoganda.
They do appear to be China simps.
Nobody condones the Chinese surveilance Städte, which is very much like the US surveilance state. Nobody condones the Chinese liberalization of markets which make the Chinese economy resemble US capitalism in some regards. Nobody condones attacks on environmentalists, may they happen in China or anywhere else. So no, simp wouldn’t be a good term here
Criticism of the decision is valid but I definitely think there were merits to it. Despite the increases in standard of living shown in my favorite graph, many Chinese were still living in extreme poverty when the reforms were initiated. According to the World Bank, more than 850 million Chinese people have been lifted out of extreme poverty, and China’s poverty rate fell from 88 percent in 1981 to 0.7 percent in 2015. And China’s rise as an economic power has allowed it to help establish an alternative economic bloc, which means now other countries can have access to foreign trade while maintaining more control of domestic policy than they would through the West.
It’s a complicated issue and I understand why some people consider it a deviation but I also understand the reasons for doing it and I think it’s met with some degree of success. I don’t think we really have an official line on it.
I wouldn’t go so far as to say “no one”, the simping i’ve seen is pretty hardcore.
I wouldn’t describe China’s economy as resembling US capitalism, but they’ve definitely gone capitalist “with Chinese characteristics”. China fucking sucks at communism, these days if not in the past.
Introducing the profit motive means the tea producers in China have had to go to quantity over quality, too, and i like my tea :(