• ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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    Russia has its own military industrial complex that it inherited from USSR that currently outproduces all of NATO, and Russian economy is currently growing according to the IMF. If you can’t understand the difference between that and Ukraine then what else is there to say.

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      Russian MIC innovations (from the USSR days) was largely driven by Ukrainians, but that’s neither here nor there.

      What Russia has are deep stores. They cannot produce new aircraft without importing parts from the west. Not fixed or rotary. They are ramping up production of missiles, but so is Ukraine.

      Russia cannot even produce ball bearings. They aren’t producing new APCs, BMPs or MBTs. They are importing ammo from North Korea ffs. And seeing how badly their equipment has performed, I expect to see their weapons exports collapse. Their vaunted “Armata” turned out to completely suck.

      As for the economy, it is being artificially propped up by depleting foreign reserves. They are currently over-borrowing yuan to attempt to correct. And you really have to be a complete idiot to believe any official Russian data.

      Russia is holding on for dear life in the hope that Trump wins the elections.

      It’s almost like we live on different planets.

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        Imagine genuinely believing all that. It’s pretty amazing to see what guzzling western propaganda out of a firehose does to a mf.

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          Hah yeah you’re right, the only truth comes from the Kremlin.

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            No, the truth is well documented in western media once you learn to read past the spin. Everything I said is openly admitted by mainstream western publications.

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              It really isn’t.

              Russia has failed every single expectation. It is so bad, Ukraine sent an official thank you letter to Russia’s Defense Minister Shoigu for being so corrupt and incompetent that it allowed Ukraine to defend itself.

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                That’s obviously what you’ve convinced yourself of and I doubt there’s anything that will change your mind until Ukraine ceases to exist as a country. Thanks to gullible westerners such as yourself countless thousands will die and millions will have their lives ruined in the process. One day you’ll have to live with supporting continuation of this atrocity.

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                  What I hear from you is “Ukrainians must submit to the will of Putin or die”. As if they are children who don’t get to decide for themselves.

                  Just like you see the Buryats, Dagestanis, Chechens, Tatars, and hundreds other peoples’ crushed under Russians’ bloodstained boots.

                  No fucking wonder every single nation occupied by Russia in the past centuries who managed to gain their freedom hates Russia’s fucking guts.

                  YOU tankie morons won’t change your mind until Russia ceases to exist, which, if Russia continues this stupid war, might come sooner than you think. Prigozhin wasn’t the only opposition to Putin in the state.

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                    Tankies are hilarious. They think all these ex-soviet states have love for Russia.

                    They say that Putin was forced into this conflict by NATO/US shenanigans. So if we take that at face value it means that Putin fell for one the oldest political exploits in the world. Grand master strategist right there.