• SheeEttin@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Yeah, but I don’t blame them. It was either that or let Israel increase oppression.

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      1 year ago

      You think that practical obliteration of Gaza and hundreds of thousands of innocent dead is preferable to continuing attempts to long term solutions?

      Make no mistake, there will be nothing left of Gaza after this.

      The Palestinian cause had been increasingly gaining empathy, Hamas set the clock back decades and basically put the entire citizenship on the butcher block.

      Suicide by cop at a national level.

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        1 year ago

        When peaceful change is impossible, violent revolution becomes inevitable.

        Israel politicians aren’t idiots and know this. They wanted their own people to die (and have been caught saying so, to paraphrase, “terrorism is a small price to pay for being a super power”) so that they could have an excuse to perform genocide, a final solution to the Palestine problem.

      • gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        Lol, you actually think there are “continuing attempts at long term solutions”?

        Other than the ethnic cleansing kind of “solution” on Israel’s part, that is

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        You think that practical obliteration of Gaza and hundreds of thousands of innocent dead is preferable to continuing attempts to long term solutions?

        Who’s attempting long-term solutions? Because it’s sure as hell not Israel and its far right government. No seriously the current situation of Palestine is specifically so that the Palestinian people have no representative who can call for a two-state solution.

        Also given what we see from the West now, I don’t see the empathy doing much.

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            Who is/was attempting a peaceful solution?

            Well, the Oslo accords were almost there until a Zionist assassinated the prime minister, who was replaced by Bibi and we all know how that went. The 2012 ceasefire was also going somewhere, but Israel didn’t hold their end of the deal (along with being vehemently opposed to the newly formed unified Palestinian government and fighting it at every turn) so the whole thing fell through. An Israel ruled by the far-right, and especially by Bibi, can’t and won’t pursue peace.

            Bibi actively created and maintained the current situation in which peace is impossible.

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              1 year ago

              Prime ministers come and go. Many Israeli citizens fell empathy for Palestinians but a lot less do now.

              Bibi barely won a majority of the votes, now the country will stand in solidarity behind him. Thanks Hamas.

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        There is no longterm solution with Hamas. They demand the complete destruction of Israel and all Jews. The Jewish people don’t have to roll over and let themselves be destroyed, even if internet keyboard warriors demand it. They’ll do what they must to survive, no different than you or I.

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            1 year ago

            https://lemm.ee/post/11463523

            “I agree there are many innocent Palestinians who don’t agree with this, but if you have a missile in your goddamn kitchen and you want to shoot it at me, am I allowed to defend myself? We have to defend ourselves, we have the full right to do so, he added.”

            Keep simping for terrorists.