Israel has been explicit about what it’s carrying out in Gaza. Why isn’t the world listening?

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    noone actually excused those terrorist acts.

    In Professor Joseph Massad’s newest article on The Electronic Intifada, he wrote that the attack that occurred in Israel on October 7th was a “stunning victory” and that Hamas’ actions were “astounding,” “awesome,” and “incredible.”

    And he doesn’t teach at some no name place either. Dude teaches at Columbia

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      …and not one of those evil words is an ethical judgement, yet, you choose to interpret them this way, because in a black and white narrative, every speck of dust on your white narrative, must mean the other person is completely in camp black.

      This is exactly what was criticized above. There’s no room for any thought. It’s just Israel, fuck yeah! or antisemite; Palestine, fuck yeah! or genocide supporter.

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        your white narrative

        Tell the Nazis my narrative is white. Tell the country clubs that banned dogs, blacks, and jews as recently as 60 years ago that my narrative is white. Tell the guy who shot up a synagogue in Pittsburgh and thought Trump was bad because he wasn’t tough on Jews that my narrative isn’t white. It’s amazing how we are somehow both nonwhite outsiders looking to destroy the fabric of society or European imperialists looking to uphold it and it’s whichever one the person viewing us thinks is bad.

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          And literally nothing of that has anything to do with waht you wrote before. Nothing. You jumped from “Gaza had succeses” to “this guy is antisemitic” to “if you think, this is not antisemitic, you are literally enabling violence”. That is just wrong.

          Again, you are unable or unwilling to accept, that “your side” can also be bad. Both sides can be bad at the same time. The Holocaust doesn’t justify violence today, just as the Naqba doens’t justifiy violence today.

          People like you would thrive under McCarthy, Stalin or the Stasi.

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            just as the Naqba doens’t justifiy violence today.

            Sooo… Palestinians should just accept their genocide quietly?

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            And literally nothing of that has anything to do with waht you wrote before.

            Correct. It has to do with the thing that I quoted from your comment just before writing it

            Again, you are unable or unwilling to accept, that “your side” can also be bad.

            Not at all. I’m not a fan of the idf or Israeli government at all. The problem is that despite the fact that they do a lot of bad stuff they’re at least wouldn’t exterminate the other side of they (the other side) laid their weapons down tomorrow. If the idf laid their weapons down we would see more slaughter like October 7th followed by the forces and complete dissolution of the state of Israel. It doesn’t excuse some of the things the idf does but it’s what makes the idf the better of the two for whatever that’s worth.

            The Holocaust doesn’t justify violence today, just as the Naqba doens’t justifiy violence today.

            The correct. What justifies violence is a valid argument that it’s being done in self defense. And right now Israel definitely has that.