• captainlezbian@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    20
    arrow-down
    7
    ·
    1 year ago

    Ok but can we not depict a Jewish person as a lizard person. Lizard people are an antisemitic conspiracy

      • naura@kbin.social
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        6
        arrow-down
        4
        ·
        1 year ago

        You’re wrong though. The Rothschilds are part of the conspiracy and they are jewish. It’s in the wiki you linked there.

        • SpookySnek
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          33
          ·
          1 year ago

          “He contends that most of the world’s ancient and modern leaders are related to these reptilians, including the Merovingian dynasty, the Rothschilds, the Bush family and the British Royal family.[22]”

          How do you translate this to being a conspiracy about Jews specifically?

          • randomname01@feddit.nl
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            7
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            1 year ago

            It’s not specifically about that, but I still see where they’re coming from. When you keep talking to conspiracy theorists they always bring up the Jews eventually. This means that a lot of conspiracy theories that don’t explicitly have anything specific to do with Jews (like 9/11 being faked, to name an example) to still be strongly tied to antisemitism.

            • SpookySnek
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              11
              ·
              1 year ago

              I respect your opinion but I do find that to be reaching quite a bit

              • randomname01@feddit.nl
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                1 year ago

                My point is not that the Rotschilds were brought up here, but rather that basically every conspiracy theorist given enough time will end up saying that the Jews run the world. This is why every conspiracy theory, even if not explicitly about Jews, is still connected to antisemitism.

        • Lauchmelder@feddit.de
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          18
          ·
          edit-2
          1 year ago

          Wow, that is a cherry-picked example if I’ve ever seen one. The Rothschilds are mentioned exactly once on this page and it’s in this sentence:

          “He [David Icke] contends that most of the world’s ancient and modern leaders are related to these reptilians, including the Merovingian dynasty, the Rothschilds, the Bush family and the British Royal family.”

          Including the Rothschilds, as well as several other non-Jewish families. The Rothschilds are part of the conspiracy not because they’re Jewish, but because they’re influential.

          • naura@kbin.social
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            2
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            1 year ago

            Well when the bush and or royal family start fires in california with space lasers, we can come back to this.

    • can@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOP
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      41
      ·
      1 year ago

      I never made that connection. I thought it was just because he’s an emotionless alien?

        • captainlezbian@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          12
          ·
          1 year ago

          He shouldn’t be immune to criticism. He’s weird and has done immense damage to society. I just am capable of saying that without defaulting to tropes associated with antisemitism.

        • Fibby
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          7
          arrow-down
          2
          ·
          1 year ago

          Lol its kind of funny you’re surprised someone with the name Zuckerberg is Jewish.

          Criticisms are totally valid. But maybe avoiding racial ones is a good idea.

          • ThatWeirdGuy1001
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            6
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            1 year ago

            Yeah sorry the average person doesn’t care about last names. Especially in America where bringing up someone’s ethnicity/race is looked down on. Last names mean fuck all to the average person

    • Brad Ganley@toad.work
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      28
      ·
      1 year ago

      While I’m with you on that, I am definitely getting more of a “sneaky snake” vibe from this comic, personally.

      • captainlezbian@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        14
        ·
        1 year ago

        Fair, maybe I’m just being a bit over cautious here as I’ve noticed a huge rise in antisemitism over the past year or so and would rather err on the side of not risking coming off as such

        • Brad Ganley@toad.work
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          14
          ·
          1 year ago

          I definitely don’t blame you for that. Dogwhistles come with that little bit of plausible deniability so it’s impossible to draw a hard line on this type of thing.

        • can@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOP
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          9
          ·
          1 year ago

          That’s fair and I’ve sadly noticed it too. I’ve recently learned what triple brackets mean.

          I still see lizard people as like a crazy molemen theory or bigfoot, not Jewish people. I think the response in this thread shows the majority of people, even those quite online, don’t see that connotation to it either and bringing attention to it could make it worse.

    • Fibby
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      28
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      Oh fuck. I always thought Zuck=Lizard person stemmed from the complete lack of emotion in his face. And all the other billionaire stereotype shit. Didnt make the antisemitism connection until now.

    • takeda@kbin.social
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      11
      ·
      edit-2
      1 year ago

      It’s clear that he is portrayed as a snake (did you read his text bubble?)

      Jewish or not, he absolutely is a snake. I don’t think anyone but you made the connection: Zuckeberg -> Jewish -> lizard.

    • Th4tGuyII@kbin.social
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      9
      ·
      edit-2
      1 year ago

      To be honest, I always kinda prefered Robo-Zucc.

      Him being a Lizard gives him too much credit.

      • ANGRY_MAPLE
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        6
        ·
        1 year ago

        I agree, that’s more fitting. His expressions are like the ones that you would see on an NPC.

    • febra@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      1 year ago

      While I do agree with that, I don’t think that’s relevant in this case. Most people don’t even know mark is Jewish. Hell I didn’t know that until last week or so. I believe the joke here is that Mark just behaves like an alien pretending to be human. Hence the lizard people conspiracy meme.