No hate for the middle class. I can’t help but enjoy the irony of people who thought they had solidarity with capital talking like Ned Ludd all of a sudden.
No hate for the middle class. I can’t help but enjoy the irony of people who thought they had solidarity with capital talking like Ned Ludd all of a sudden.
Who are these bourgeois creatives that are somehow able to be replaced by tech?
If you work for a living, you aren’t bourgeois.
We need class solidarity. Not this shit.
I always interpreted middle class to be not living paycheck to paycheck. Because that is the more meaningful difference of quality of life in my opinion. Not having some arbitrary line of more and more expensive shit. I would say the next line is having so much you never have to work another day in your life
Edit: clarity
“Not living paycheck to paycheck” and “not needing to work in order to live” are two vastly different concepts. The former is a member of the working class, the latter is a member of the bourgeoisie
I think that’s totally fair. I just think those are three different categories that are meaningful enough to discuss (I.e. not totally arbitrary).
On a broader theoretical level, I think it should be possible to live without working (I.e. you can eat cheap food, live in a cheap place, and pay for all necessary government ID’s and all) but that people don’t have a right to inheritance. Generational wealth is fundamentally inconsistent with equality and the lofty concepts that America is supposed to represent. Enforcing no inheritance law would certainly be… challenging
Just discussion
W2 Menials, identifiable because they have a W2
They are merely petite
that’s not what petit bourgeoisie means either
Oh, define it according to the inventor of the term then.
Wikipedia defines it well, with some history of the term
Here is another two definitions from marxist.org’s glossary of terms: https://www.marxists.org/glossary/terms/p/e.htm
Great.
Now describe the key difference from the socialist perspective between owning a small business and owning a small business’s worth of stock in a dozen different businesses.
That is so far from your original labelling of creative laborers who are under threat by AI as bourgeois. What is your point?
That middle class is not working class by definition.
Keep up.
Okay chill with the smugness. The “middle class” has a number of mutually exclusive definitions so it would be helpful to clarify which you’re using.
VFX artists, actors, graphic designers, writers, musicians, visual artists, etc. generally sell their labor to capitalists in exchange for a wage in order to survive. This is the definition of the working class. The widgets they produce are not lumps of coal or buildings, but the specific widget produced by labor does not affect economic class.
No.