A: you’re wrong, Vim over Emacs every day of the week and twice on Sundays.

B: what’s so damned hard about alt+f4, open up Google, spend the next two weeks googling Vim lessons and Vim tutors and reading length articles about vim commands, and then finally coming back to Vim just to type :wq?

:q!

You wouldn’t want to ruin your file by accidentally saving your random flailing.

Nano > Vim

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Vim users entering a hadouken, a mortal kombat fatality, and their social security number to do simple tasks (much easier than pressing the function keys (take up too much space) or clicking a menu (GUI bad)).

I prefer emacs too, but:

• Emacs’s C-x C-c isn’t likely any more able to leverage knowledge from other environments than vi’s :wq. I guess you could be using a graphical version of emacs and use the menus.

• On my system, current versions of vim do appear, by default, to show a screen telling you how to quit. A test of emacs -Q to bring up a default emacs environment in a terminal environment doesn’t appear to do that. It instead directs you to the “C-h C-a about emacs page”, which isn’t likely to help beginners. It probably should at least reference the top-level help at C-h C-h or the tutorial at C-h C-t.

• There are text-mode menus in emacs, but I normally use emacs in the terminal with the menus hidden and don’t use them. F10 will cause them to drop down, but I’m not sure how intuitive that is. looks further Okay, using emacs -Q to test a vanilla environment, it does look like the menus are visible by default in the terminal. If you’re in an environment with mouse support enabled - it looks like gpm in a Linux console works, but curiously-enough, it doesn’t seem to work in urxvt, xterm, or gnome-terminal for me – but at least in some terminal environments, you can use the mouse to operate the terminal-mode menus, so I guess ease-of-use point for emacs there.

EDIT: It does look like there’s a GTK-based vim that has graphical menus these days, so vim can probably do the menu thing too, but at least on my system, when I launch it, I get a regular terminal vim instance.

VIM master race

:x to save and quit. :q to quit. :q! To save and not quit.

Am I the only one who uses :x?

I learned vim first, and I genuinely have no idea how to use the user friendly editors like nano or whatever. I’m not a developer, but I know how to :wq.

Shift+ZZ will save the file if it’s been modified and then close Vim.

broke: :wq

woke: ZZ

This is not the way