Well, here we go. Nintendo have formally filed a lawsuit against the creators of the popular open source Switch emulator yuzu.
  • AdmiralShat@programming.devEnglish
    104·
    9 months ago

    unlawfully hacking a Nintendo Switch console

    What? It’s my hardware, Apple lost his battle with jailbreaking years ago, Nintendo just shit out an already lost argument.

    • Godort@lemm.ee
      342·
      9 months ago

      This is not really the same thing.

      The Apple lawsuit was about running unsigned code on the iPhone, which courts deemed that Apple couldn’t use copyright as a tool to enforce its walled garden.

      Nintendo isn’t arguing about people modifying their switch to run homebrew. They’re arguing that to use Yuzu you need to provide it with a copy of the decryption keys and system firmware which must be either extracted from a Switch or distributed illegally.

      This is a much stronger case in Nintendo’s favor, than the Apple jailbreak one. Although, I suspect the Yuzu dev has a better case as it’s already legal to back up discs and ROMs as long as you dont distribute them and they’re not responsible for other people’s actions if they choose to break copyright

      • Jo Miran@lemmy.ml
        27·
        9 months ago

        IIRC Sony lost their lawsuit which was almost identical to Nintendo’s. I’m guessing they are hoping for a far friendlier conservative court.

      • sugar_in_your_tea
        9·
        9 months ago

        As long as they don’t distribute copyrighted material, they should be good. Hopefully a judge throws this out due to no evidence of actual copyright violation.

    • TootSweet@lemmy.worldEnglish
      16·
      9 months ago

      Yeah. That bit stood out to me as well. I posted in the other cross-post that I wonder if that means Nintendo’s going to try to go after stuff like Atmosphere and Hekate etc next.

      • themoonisacheese
        16·
        9 months ago

        The hacking discords were just hit with another wave of bans across the board. Sure, a lot of them were sharing piracy links, but I know of several that clearly weren’t and still got nuked. Nintendo is going hard into repression, next step is probably going to be going after modchip sellers.

  • YaBoyMax@programming.devEnglish
    402·
    9 months ago

    Ugh, not this again. I’m very adamantly against piracy and I’ve personally dumped every one of my Switch ROMs from games I physically own, but these kinds of stunts make me want to pirate Nintendo games purely out of spite. Hopefully this gets thrown out or otherwise resolved quickly. The issue of clean room emulators has been tested before and found to be fair use and to my knowledge there’s no legal precedent for Nintendo’s claims.

  • Tetra@kbin.social
    36·
    9 months ago

    Why would anyone play your games on hardware that’s ten years behind? The few Nintendo games I still buy (like Tears of the Kingdom actually) I still play on emulator, because it’s objectively better in every way. Fuck off.

    • freedumb@programming.dev
      19·
      9 months ago

      Seeing Tears of the Kingdom actually run in 60 fps on the steamdeck made me immediately sell my Switch. Nintendo are holding back technological development by dragging their feet, and pushing anti-consumer practices.

      • Atemu@lemmy.ml
        410·
        9 months ago

        Seeing Tears of the Kingdom actually run in 60 fps on the steamdeck

        Uhh, you did not see that. It doesn’t even get to 30 in most cases sadly.

    • TragicNotCute@lemmy.worldEnglish
      7·
      9 months ago

      I’ve been working to build a large collection of DS and 3DS games that I still enjoy to this day on the original hardware.

      As a side rant, the 3DS/2DS really is a great console. It has a huge catelog of affordable games that can be purchased used from eBay and it doesn’t have the requirement to be online like the switch does. I took my switch off grid a while ago and was mega disappointed to find I couldn’t play a single game without “updates” because this wasn’t my “primary console” (a concept I didn’t realize existed or mattered).

      Thanks for coming to my TED talk.

  • narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee
    32·
    9 months ago

    Go multi platform and a large chunk of the people currently pirating Switch games for emulation will just buy your games instead.

    • Atemu@lemmy.ml
      8·
      9 months ago

      I’d absolutely buy switch ROMs, even for 60€. Just gimme a damn download link.

  • TruthAintEasy@kbin.social
    244·
    9 months ago

    As an example I’ve paid for a copy of Breath of Fire 3, 3 times in my life, because the disc broke twice over the years. Now my ps1 & 2 are caput. I still own a copy of the disk. Would it be illegal to download an emulator (I’ve boughten 2 ps1 and 4 ps2 in my lifetime) and a rom of BoF3? Sony got their cut 9 times already.

    If buying isnt owning then pirating isnt stealing in my humble opinion.

    • Link@rentadrunk.org
      5·
      9 months ago

      Some might argue you would need to copy the ROM from the disc you own instead of downloading it from the internet.

      Luckily for the PS2 this is trivial for anyone with a PC and a disc drive.

  • the_grass_trainer@lemmy.world
    10·
    9 months ago

    What about when the Switch is no longer supported just like the 3DS? The only way to get those games now is other online avenues, or searching local stores which aren’t promising anymore.