cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/212576

As we’ve seen in the past week, a large amount of users don’t care why subreddits are blacked out or why, they just want their timeline back to normal.

It’s understandable, most users just want something to “work” when they want to use it and don’t give any thought to what that means. We’ve already seen mods be replaced, deleted histories come back to life, whatever it takes for Reddit to make it seem “normal” so they don’t lose users. Heck, even some of those who have left Reddit may be tempted to go back and read / comment on things they see there, because Reddit obviously isn’t going to die overnight. So how do we continue the fight in the current environment Reddit has put us in while still getting a message across the users?

My thought is the following, and I’m putting it here because I think recent migrants are/were more than semi-casual reddittors, and it’s clear we’ve got some development talent out there. I’m a developer as well but I’m looking for:

  1. Thoughts on the approach I’m suggesting
  2. Thoughts on implementation / usage
  3. Overall feelings regarding this in general

The idea

Make browser plugin(s) and / or a website that [knowingly to the user] intercept comment post requests for reddit and stores the post content elsewhere. In its place, all that is submitted to reddit is a link to a website (where people can click to view users intended comment text) along with a blurb about “reddit owning your comment data”.

The browser plugin can also find these comments within posts and automatically query and get the raw text and replace it within a reddit page to make viewing these posts easier for everyone.

The idea being that the more users install the extension to easily read these posts, the more users obfuscate their posts so that other users also need the extension to more easily read comments on reddit.

Not only does this protect user data from being owned by Reddit, it makes it so Google searches will not find content on reddit.

Example post before and after:

(Unencrypted, or viewed with the browser extension installed)

(The posted content stored in reddit)

There’s my idea. A few thoughts / notes:

  • Is this possible? I haven’t checked out manifest V3 or made a browser extension in a long time, but with what RES already does I assume this would be doable.
  • Is it worth it? Will enough people want to read comments stored in this manner to “join the fight”? Who knows
  • Should it store the comment data elsewhere, or just store encrypted text in the reddit comment itself?

Anyway. I know we’ve got a lot of ex-redditors here, a lot of very talented developers, and a fight still going on that deserves a next step from the users.

Open to any and all thoughts from. This is just a musing on a potential next step - I haven’t decided if I’m going to start developing anything yet.

  • Phil Harrison@feddit.ukEnglish
    10·
    1 year ago

    My advice is to avoid trying to screw with reddit and just walk away. Don’t put any effort into fighting, take your creativity and use it to build something better here.

    We all can see that everything is new here and it still needs work, but you’re here at the beginning and it will get better.

  • Jamie@jamie.moeEnglish
    3·
    1 year ago

    A neat idea in concept, but would never work in execution on 2 main levels.

    1. Reach: First off, you have to convince a lot of users to install the extension to make it effective. Most aren’t going to care to begin with, but even if they do, it naturally alienates every platform except for PC, and the Android+Firefox crowd. iOS users and mobile Chrome users are completely left out.

    2. The replacement comment: People are going to get annoyed by that really fast, and mods will probably straight up use AutoMod to filter it. It adds nothing to the conversation for most users because of reason 1.

    • eekrano@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
      1·
      1 year ago

      Fair points. I guess I’d assumed mods (being forced to “open back up or lose mod status”) may go along with it.

      As for reach, I’d just figured one person being curious about a comment and clicking the link (going to a pastebin-like site with the content) may also be encouraged to install the extension. Then from there it’s just a game of “infected” where it spreads. But yes, the mobile browsers would be very inconvenienced having to click a link to read each users posted content.

      Ty

  • Leraje@lemmy.mlEnglish
    3·
    1 year ago

    Reddit is not going to go away. And if there’s a set of tools to autoedirect/replace content to a Lemmy based community it won’t be long before its automodded and possibly even excluded server side in the reddit codebase.

    They’ve said it themselves - profit is their target. They’ll do pretty much anything to prevent that being impeded.

    I will have to participate on Reddit as I help mod a sub for an org that risks being misrepresented. But that’s all I’ll go for, no more participation in any other sub (unless I spot some misrepresentation of what’s happened or of the fediverse). My community is here now.

    Maybe its time we just moved on from Reddit and worrying about what its done and concentrate on building the community here.

  • Little8Lost@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1·
    1 year ago

    i would join this kind of protest, main problem is that enough active people need to do this to make an effect and reach at least some people. If there are not enough participating than the comments can easily be skipped.
    Next problem is the add on. I guess it is not compartible with phones, at least the apps, next thing that if it gets installed the user dont have to care anymore.

    Likely a better approach is to make posts or directly comment in subreddits about similar or migrated communities here.

    For me the key feature would be that reddit does not get my data. That is actually a very good use case

    And i think the idea is creative and i feel bad for describing it as not that useful and but i may be wrong with my points.

    Maybe there are other ways to use add ons like adding behind the “main text” some rows to advertise similar communities on other platforms. But that could be skipped too by people.

    Please let me know when you have something i can participate and i will join when i am the next time online.