Alabama supreme court’s decision causing a temporary halt in IVF care shines spotlight on problem between two groups
There is a growing rift in the decades-old marriage between anti-abortion activists and Republican lawmakers.
The problem came into view last month, after a bombshell decision from the Alabama supreme court temporarily halted in vitro fertilization (IVF). The ruling, which described frozen embryos as “extrauterine children”, unraveled when the Republican-controlled legislature passed short-term protections for IVF providers.
Under a new law signed last week by Republican governor Kay Ivey, IVF providers are temporarily protected from civil litigation and criminal prosecution in the event of “damage or death of an embryo” during treatment.
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The move offered a helpful, if limited lifeline, to IVF patients in the state. The new law does not refute the Alabama supreme court’s controversial position that an embryo, stored for the purpose of IVF, is a person. Nor does it permanently shield IVF providers from legal penalties.
Despite its limited scope, the Republican-backed law took a step to align the GOP with US public consensus, which overwhelmingly supports IVF. It also invoked the wrath of rightwing Christian activists.
Nancy Reagan presented herself as a had core, dyed in the wool, 100% Right To Lifer. That all flew out the window when someone explained that fetal stem cells might help her husband’s dementia.
They are always strictly guided by their unshakable religious faith until it bumps into something they want.
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I’d like to see one time one of these ‘religious’ leaders actually suffered for their faith. Martin L. King and the Southern Christian Leadership Conference people went to jail and suffered violence for their faith. Can anyone name an American Rightwinger who was in physical danger from their crusades?
Edit = I meant to say ‘Rightwing leader.’ Then I remembered Herman Cain.
Was that guy who decided to go to North sentinel island to try to convert the natives to evangelical Christianity and got himself killed a conservative? I would imagine, given the religious position
I’ll edit. I meant to say ‘leader.’ and I forgot about Herman Cain dying of Covid after attending rallies.
I’m sure many Rightwingers have lost money, like the folks who brought Trump’s NFTs without knowing how to store them.
This should be read before any ‘pro-life’ debate.
Like how Alabama wants to classify embryos created during IVF as “potential life” to get around that whole “we believe life begins at conception, therefore all abortion is murder what do you mean IVF makes a bunch of life that has to be thrown away?” problem.
You’re right to condemn the loyalist worldview that thinks argument is shuffling cards as a dominance game.
You’re wrong to mistake that as the only reason people believe wacky religious bullshit.
Some of these people are dead fucking serious. Notably, the ones who murdered doctors. They are, in contrast to loyalists making shit up, critics. They are attempting to form an internally consistent set of opinions by going from facts, through logic, to conclusions. They just happen to be wrong about a whole bunch of facts. And a lot of their logic sucks as well. But when they espouse and defend awful conclusions, it is not the same kind of mistake as the assholes working backwards from those conclusions, just because it suits them.
Religion and right-wing politics are where these groups are most blind to one another. Mitt Romney is now called a RINO because he actually bought some bullshit 1990s version of Republican dogma, and refused to keep up with fresh evil bullshit. Sir Thomas More was empowered for pushing Catholic dogma when it helped the king and beheaded for pushing Catholic dogma when it opposed the king. There comes a point where one turns to other and asks, “Wait - you were fucking serious?”
And then the knives come out.
Let them fight
Let us eat popcorn
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So it’s the No True Scotsman fallacy in the flesh?
Scotsman? Naw thems “Patriots”. Or if you prefer, “real muricans”
