• tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    7 months ago

    I think my parents did a fine job, when me and my brothers were little we would play ‘crips and bloods’ how kids play ‘cops and robbers’ but none of us wanted to play as a cop.

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    7 months ago

    Last time I checked the FBI classifies Local Law Enforcement as the largest gang in the country…so you’re not lying to your kid.

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    In all fairness, the qualifier to be considered a gang is a low, barely existent bar when you consider all of its definitions, especially ones like “A group of people who associate regularly on a social basis.”

    So… Cops? gang. SCOTUS? gang. Boy Scouts? gang. Lemmy? gang. Classroom of 1st graders? gang. You and your coworkers? gang. A literal family? gang. …you get the gist.

    tldr, you (and everyone else) are literally gangsta!!

  • Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee
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    7 months ago

    Casting agent: “How did the job go”

    Aspiring actor: “Why are my family receiving death threats?”

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    7 months ago

    Que

    ‘There’s something happening here. What it is isn’t exactly clear…’

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    May I ask, how do you want to keep criminality under control? I’m genuinely curious. Do you just let it be? Do you educate people? Do you create some separate unit to police?

    Like I understand when one is let’s say dissatisfied with police. But in my opinion the solution isn’t to let it be. And definitely not to form some para-military organization. Reform the police, have one group in country to keep order. If the group doesn’t work, fix it.

    But that’s just my point of view, I’m curious to read your’s

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      7 months ago

      Nobody advocated removing the police. The meme only says that currently they’re basically organized crime. So your question seems more like sealioning or JAQing off.

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      Just to add onto what others are saying: to what extent do you think cops prevent crime? Most of what they do is catch people after the fact, and even then many (if not most) cases go unsolved.

      I don’t have the statistics in front of me at the moment, but the comparison that should be made is crime prevented by cops vs. crime that only exists because of cops, including things that cops just never get prosecuted for. I understand the impulse to think that cops are at least better than nothing, but I don’t honestly know if that’s true.

    • BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.worldOP
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      7 months ago

      Pay them better, ruthlessly background check for white supremacy and extremist behavior, put more money into mental health services and address chronic poverty problems are a few solutions. Also way way more training.

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      7 months ago

      Law enforcement in the U.S. in its current form is a gang. The key points here are lack of accountability, lack of oversight, and a lot of unjust laws. The latter may not be their fault per se, but it is still a factor that needs to be corrected.

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      7 months ago

      Ok, I’d say: Education and democratic involvement.

      You sleep in the bed that you make. People don’t shit where they sleep.

      When people make the laws, people won’t break the laws.

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        7 months ago

        And sex crime for example?

        Edit: People downvote, but no one provides an explanation for the monsters who do shit where they sleep?

        Just because a sentence sounds good, doesn’t mean it’s true.

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          You’re downvoted because it seems like you’re trolling with that sentence fragment. What exactly to you mean by “sex crime” and how does it connect with the previous comment?

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            It’s a pretty easy to infer question from the context of the comment chain.

            But as some people are apparently lacking in such an ability what I mean is how is education and democratic involvement going to stop people who commit crimes that aren’t born out of ignorance or lack of freedom?

            A rapist will gladly shit where they sleep, they are not engaging in illegal acts for rational reasons (ex. Poverty or disenfranchisement).

            The notion that those two thing are the solution is ridiculous.

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              It’s a pretty easy to infer question from the context of the comment chain.

              IMHO, it was less a case of what you said but rather how you said it. That made people want to not engage.

              But as some people are apparently lacking in such an ability

              I’d suggest you’d adapt your tone a bit. You kind of come off as an asshole with some shit like that.

              As to your point: If society focuses on eradicating the reasons that lead to people becoming rapists (e.g. lack of community, need for power over other people, mental health issues, …), rape cases should go down.

              Genuine question: In what way and amount do you think is the police actually preventing sexual assault?

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                People don’t rape because lack of community and you can’t just magic away power desires.

                Also I don’t support the police full stop. I’d like to see the whole thing abolished, I just don’t think you’ll solve all crimes through such idealistic nonsense.

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                  7 months ago

                  Being part of a community could keep potential rapists in check, making them not wanting to shit were they sleep.

                  Desires of power aren’t integral to humanity. They were fostered once, they can shrink again.

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      You can look outside of the us and readily find examples of doing most things better. Generally speaking it starts with education, workers rights, not a circus for as a government, etc. The situation the US is in has been hand crafted for 30+ years to solidify the death grip these things (read: nationalism, fascism, etc) have on our culture and government, amongst other things.

      You want like an unironic peek at this shit happening just go watch Borat again and see how the crowd reacts to him in the rodeo. Shit has been cooking for years. It all needs to be thrown out, it’s so perverted and rotten at this point I do not you can realistically save it by any natural means anymore.

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      7 months ago

      I just love how you get downvoted just for asking an honest question with no clear malice or derision. Peak Internet.

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      7 months ago

      You bring shame back. Ostracization from the group. You don’t give your attention or time to little shit disturbers… if it’s an extreme crime like fucking kids or murdering people for fun, you eradicate the issue.

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        No, no death penalty.

        What happens if you catch the wrong “murderer”?

        What recourse do they have to fight for their innocence and freedom if gaoled?

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          Well if we lived in a society where I lived in a place where I knew Mark for his whole entire life…we should know how Mark lives… if Mark started murdering people or fucking kids, one would assume the community at whole would know that Mark is the one who is murdering people or fucking kids… murderers and pedophiles and people who do problematic things within a society should be spotted early on… that’s where Community is important… the community should know it’s people, and it should know when it’s people do weird or bad things, and it’s Community should know how to reorient bad thinking into good behavior… and if they don’t adhere to good behavior they should be eradicated.

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            Yeah life ain’t that simple mate.

            Communities don’t always know what goes on behind closed doors or in the dead of the night.

            Take a monster like Fritzl, small community, multiple tenants renting in his house over decades, no one knew a thing for 24 years.

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              Oh yeah people knew a thing… people just didn’t say a thing… guaranteed people knew a thing …he didn’t live alone in his fucking house for 24 years.

              If you’re a monster and you’re completely alone, then sure… be a monster alone… but if you’re trying to be in a society, people will know you are a monster, and there is a choice to be made.

              It’s straight up is that simple. Don’t be a complete monster, and live on planet Earth… if you’re just here to destroy everything… first of all why? And if there’s no good reason… and you can’t be swayed, then go away. Period.

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      Glad a bad interaction with police hasn’t happened to you or anyone you know but that’s a pretty limited world view generally.

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        Police can be corrupt and have issues, but a world without them would be fucked.

        People act like it’s just as simple as removing police and the world would be amazing, but that’s the naive world view imo. You need to actually go through some shit to realize how important they are even if imperfect.

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          Nobody is advocating for getting rid of them altogether, lots of reform and discussion is needed and clearly you shouldn’t have commented altogether.