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    7 months ago

    That’s a great feature, indeed!

    I just downloaded this file and opened the notebook in LabPlot. This worked fine in general, but in some places I got errors because of missing packages.

    I can see that there is a requirements.txt in the same repo two folders up.

    How do I install packages into the environment LabPlot uses? Where can I define a venv for LabPlot? Can I define different venvs for different projects?

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        7 months ago

        I think it should be quite simple to make this possible.

        All we need is a parameter for the python binary path in the CAS Python configuration.

        This could be improved further by adding such a parameter to the project, which would override the global value if it is set and which could be a relative path, too. (OK, maybe we would also need some kind of automatism to find the correct binary both on Windows and Linux, because the path from the venv to the acutal python binary is different depending on the system).

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          @silmaril unfortunately this is more complicated… we’re not communicating with the binary like this is the case for example for Maxima and Octave but embedding the interpreter at runtime. So, our binaries are linked to python’s shared library. This is done at build step and this is the reason why we can only work with the “system version” of Python. This is an important topic that was raised to us already multiple times and we hope we can start working on it in the near future.

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    7 months ago

    I just looked at the documentation and saw that LabPlot only supports Python 2.x, which makes it entirely uninteresting to me.

    I’d love to see support for current Python versions, including following new releases, which might be easier to achieve with 3.x.

    But I know this kind of things is a lot of work to get started, so I won’t blame anyone for not doing this ;-)

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          7 months ago

          And while we’re at it: How does LabPlot decide which python version to use?

          On my Linux system, there is no python and python3 points to Python 3.10.12.

          LabPlot uses Python 3.11.9 and Python 3.12.2 is also installed.

          Which mechanism is used by LabPlot to find the Python version to use? And (how) can I tweak it to make it use 3.12?

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            @silmaril it’s decided at build/compile time. LabPlot is using Cantor internally and when Cantor is being built, the shared libraries of Python that are found in the labrary path are used and linked to. This basically fixes the version of Python used in labplot/cantor.

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              Does this mean that as a user of the binary build, I have to install the correct Python version to be used by LabPlot / Cantor on my machine? And the current version will need Python 3.11.x and won’t work if Python 3.12.x is the only version installed?

              How can I determine the required Python version from LabPlot in case it’s not already installed?

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                @silmaril this is correct at the moment. Clearly, this not what people want to have usually and we need to change this.

                To determine the required version, you can check the dependencies of executable ‘cantor_pyrhonserver’ on Linux either in your package manager or with ldd. For windows we compile and ship everything and document the required version of python in our FAQ.

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                  7 months ago

                  Would it be possible to display the Python version and/or it’s executable path in the CAS configuration dialog?

                  That’s where I would look for this information and it wouldn’t leave any potential for documentation not being up to date.

                  The FAQ currently states:

                  On Linux distributions it usually means LabPlot only works with the system version of Python.

                  What is the “system version”?

                  On my system python3 --version returns Python 3.10.12, but print(sys.version) in LabPlot returns 3.11.9 (main, Nov 10 2011, 15:00:00) [GCC 13.2.0]

                  The information about Python versions on Windows seems to be correct, but I would recommend to mention the LabPlot version we are talking about in the FAQ, since this will probably change in future versions.