• grrgyle@slrpnk.net
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    8 months ago

    That’s why you keep doing it. Eventually a chilling/deterrent effect will take hold. It’s not like anyone’s actually passionate about oil. They can go be apple orchard execs or something idk

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      8 months ago

      Yep, persistent effort over an indeterminate period. That’s what got us into this problem and it is a valid way to get out.

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      8 months ago

      If deterrence worked, there wouldn’t be capital crimes in jurisdictions with the death penalty. Or maybe our criminal justice system is just fucked.

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        8 months ago

        This is definitely not a hill I want to die on, but there are three axes to deterrence:

        1. Certainty of punishment

        2. Severity of punishment

        3. Celerity (speed) of punishment

        Basically you can’t just raise one axis and expect anyone to be deterred. So if you just put to death one random exec it’s probably not even as effective as, like, slightly maiming a handful. Or cream pie to the face of a hundred. Or a gentle yet stern tap of the wrist of a thousand.

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          8 months ago

          A very well-thought out counterpoint. Thank you. I did a spit-take on the ‘cream pie to the face’ at first though…

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        8 months ago

        CEOs may be sociopaths but they have a more developed sense of self preservation than your run of the mill murderer so it might be more effective IMO. I say try it and add the death penalty for severe financial crimes like they’re doing in Vietnam.