A woman and a 17-year-old male were taken away for questioning after the three-hour standoff ended.
  • Monument@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
    353·
    5 months ago

    I’m all about ACAB.

    But here’s my understanding of it:
    U.S. Marshalls (not local PD) were sent to apprehend a man that had weapons when he shouldn’t have. They had not yet reached his house, because he was in his front yard when they approached.
    The man opened fire on them from the front yard, and they shot and killed him. They were fired on by someone in the house.
    They called for backup, and retreated while the house occupants barricaded themselves. 3 hours later, unable to resolve the situation, they used armored vehicles and ended the standoff without killing additional people.

    I guess I don’t think these officers did anything bad in this situation, even though they represent a horrible system.

    • pageflight@lemmy.worldEnglish
      310·
      5 months ago

      Did they need to engage in a fight after the man in the yard fired shots? What would have happened if they had brought in a negotiator or something? I don’t know if those are viable options in this situation, but it does sound like they continued aggressively. I can’t tell when the cops were killed.

      • Monument@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
        82·
        5 months ago

        They probably did need to continue engaging.

        I’m unsure who shot which cops, but I’m given to understand the shooter in the building had shot one of the cops. An update to the article since I read it indicates three officers were shot while attempting to extricate/get medical help for the first cohort of wounded/killed.

        So like, there’s a crime there, and a violent one. But it’s also a public hazard if someone is firing their guns in the suburbs.

        It’s also not reported (as far as I know from the one article I read, linked above) what transpired in the three hours during the standoff. They may have brought in a negotiator.
        We don’t know what we don’t know. I’m sure more details will emerge.

  • jordanlund@lemmy.world
    29·
    5 months ago

    “warrant for a felon wanted for possessing a firearm”

    Well, it seems that was a valid warrant at least.

    • ladicius@lemmy.world
      13·
      5 months ago

      That literally gave a German gangster a legit excuse for killing a police officer (really, really rare over here that policemen get shot, really rare) when police stormed his house early morning and forgot to call out their profession. He shot one of them as he thought they were from an enemy gangster gang (those gangsters have stressful lives, don’t they).

      German court acquitted him due to justifiable self protection.

    • Monument@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
      91·
      5 months ago

      The article above says the man was in his front yard and began firing on the marshalls as they approached.

      I suspect that even if they did not announce their presence, their presence was known to him.

    • Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee
      71·
      5 months ago

      Some of the officers who rushed to the Charlotte neighborhood to rescue the first wave of downed officers were wounded as a second shooter began firing on them after they killed the wanted man,

      Given that they would have been arriving in police cars, with lights and sirens, I’m pretty sure the shooter knew.

    • Hegar@kbin.social
      432·
      5 months ago

      Americans who just want to continue calling law enforcement a bunch of murderers.

      We don’t just want to call police murderers, we also want them to stop murdering people.

      • Cethin@lemmy.zipEnglish
        2·
        5 months ago

        Yeah, everyone wants to stop calling them murderers. It just happens that they keep on murdering.

    • littleblue✨@lemmy.world
      202·
      5 months ago

      While I completely agree with your second paragraph and much of it deeply resonates with me, I gotta point out that “laid down their lives” is far too passive to describe what the average cop is doing at a scene like this.

    • Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world
      11·
      5 months ago

      Ignoring all your weird takes, I just wanted to call this out.

      No one is talking about how homeless lives matter, either.

      Yeah we fucking do. We talk about providing mental health care. We talk about getting food stamps, providing housing, creating a basic income… You know, shit that Republicans continue to push to cut because “it’ll make people lazy!”

      I do like that you went to complain about all of this under a post about dead cops though.

        • Cethin@lemmy.zipEnglish
          3·
          5 months ago

          If they did, which I’m not certain to say one way or the other, you wouldn’t hear about it. It’s hard to manufacture a culture war out of that. It’s easy when “protesters are attacking our helpless innocent police.”