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Imagine if that was the headline…
Well that headline would be pretty damn accurate!
all the way to the entire country
China is no different. In fact there are NO countries in the world immune to the “you displaced a previous civilization” argument. They’ve all done it.
Tibet was de facto independent for a while, but it re-joined China voluntarily circa 1950. About 10 years later, with some help from western agitation and assets, the theocratic ruling class felt too threatened by development empowering their serf population and sought to secede in order to maintain their fiefdom. Mao sent in the PLA and crushed the secessionist revolt.
You really can’t “no u” this one because of Imperial China, the PRC’s claim to Tibet is completely valid. You’d probably have more luck trying with Xinjiang, though evidently that is viewed as slightly played-out now.
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Nation states are memetic egregor, they only exist as long as we believe in them.
Like Santa Claus
Creating disbelief can be as functionallity effective at state dissolution as cracking open the skulls of those who believe in it
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This a fantastic nuanced answer. It does start to go off the rails near the part where you assert china territorial claim over USA’s. And when you say collective action is the only way, which, if I am not mistaken is a core authleft belief.
I think all states and cancerous egregors on the human psyche with varying levels of malignancy.
Even as they make my living conditions possible, I despise them. Especially the part where you correctly identify that not all humans under the egregor’s control are required to believe abd support it for it to continue existing and imposing its will on humanity.
Yes, as long as enough believers enacts its decrees it will endure.
I think what I meant earlier, is that ideas that can dispell this state if belief, can be as effective at cause the egregor’s remission as bombs are at kinetically dismantling it. Maybe even more.
I do take special exception with your notion that these egregors come into being out of conscious and renewed informed consent. Rather I believe they arise out of historical and material contingency and persist through friction, self-reinforcement and passive failure of imagination for an alternative by the population.
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Pardon the shorthand, but my interlocutor understood what I meant just fine. After all, I’m typing all of this with the right side of my thumb sliding on some glass, I think I deserve some slack !
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Since taking office in 2021, Biden has yet to meet the Dalai Lama. As a candidate in 2020, Biden criticised Donald Trump for being the only US president in three decades who had neither met nor spoken to the Tibetan spiritual leader.
Realistically he probably didn’t mean to slight them but just forgot.
they just can’t help fucking with China
Definitely better now than the theocracy it used to be under, but it can get a lot better.
The way to get better is not to return it to a theocratic serfdom system.
The west will never get over the fact that Tibet is already free
I question the US’s claims over a certain region (the whole of it)
Everyone should read When serfs stood up in Tibet by Anna Louise Strong
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/strong-anna-louise/1959/tibet/ch17.htm
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I guess the US really likes protecting the rights of pedophiles…
Dalai Lama apologises after kissing boy and asking him to ‘suck my tongue’
Reporter: [REDACTED]
Reason: Dumbass alert🤡
Some reports make me want to break my own rule of not divulging reporters’ names.
Tibetan monks literally had child sex slaves. Those dudes have a better PR department than the Catholic church
Those dudes have a better PR department than the Catholic church
Catholic church isn’t backed by the entire western propaganda machine, Dalai Lama is.
So, if any of your local religious leaders is a pedophile you lose your right to self determination? That will massively reduce the number of sovereign countries. To 0.
If that happens good? Why do we think having countries and borders that creates strife a good thing? If we eliminate all borders and are just humanity I see that as an absolute win.
Humanity needs to be way more interactive globally than it currently is, and for a good long time. Forcing elimination of borders and nations without having a basically uniform global culture - and probably language - is a “bad idea.”
It’s a good thing that communist parties are immune to having sexual predators in their ranks.
So, you are telling me that in your enlightened opinion imperialism is a great thing and decolonization was wrong? That’s a take…
If the country is a theocracy run by a ruling class of slave owning pedophiles, yes, that government deserves to go away. Serfdom is bad.
And does it deserve to be colonized? Because you are basically justifing imperial colonization.
right to self determination
China freed the Tibetan people from serfdom imposed by a feudal religious state.
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The whole thread is full of them.
Good.
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Don’t worry, some lib’ll tell you.
ITT: A post critical of China gets flooded by lemmy.ml whataboutism comments.
If anything, this is a post critical of the US lmao
You’re projecting
