Is it just me, or are most snap packages broken?
A lot of problems have to do with developers using some command to start or run a process, for example:
- dropbox “Launch Dropbox Website” fails badly for Firefox as a snap
- gimp as a snap, preferences-folders-<select one>-Show file location in the file manager, doesn’t work
Another type of problem is the location for local files, e.g.:
- a snap zoom upgrade uses the same location for recordings as the prior version, which doesn’t work because the old snap version directory is inaccessible
Another type of problem is the integration with Ubuntu (ostensibly the owner of the snap format), for example:
- superkey (Windows logo) search for a snap and click or double-click on the icon just shows a wait cursor and finally times out (you have to right click and choose New Window)
- update fails to update snaps - you need to manually sudo snap refresh, and even then the Software Updater thinks it need to update something until you reboot
- snap-store has no search function - but if you start typing it will search (what kind of sadistic user experience designer thought that one up?)
- snap-store Updates - Update All can fail and display a failure message from weeks ago
- don’t even get me on about disk usage, like /var/lib/snapd/snaps or your ~/snap directory, that likely have more gigabytes than you’ve needed in a long time
Should I just give up on snaps and use Flatpack or Appimage?
Should I just give up on snaps and use Flatpack or Appimage?
Use your system’s native package manager and repository unless you have a really good reason not to. Really good reasons include:
- Proprietary software that can experience library incompatibility and should be used inside a runtime
- You’re using something like Alpine Linux that uses musl libc and you want to install software that depends on glibc
- The software isn’t ported to your distribution (though the better solution would be to just write a package yourself)
Some additional reasons:
- The native packages are broken or otherwise missing functionality
- The app you’re using is quite volatile and needs upstream updates faster than the native packages are pushed
Flatpak specific:
- You want the app to be sandboxed
Flatpak is a great choice for Steam in particular. The native install requires a full 32bit multilib stack from your distros package repo, flatpak steam boxes all of that up on its own.
I try to use flatpak for GUI apps where possible, those don’t need unrestricted access to my user data in most cases.
Snaps suck, but I haven’t found flatpaks to be much better. I’ve also found Ubuntu to be really unstable recently fwiw. It’s really annoying how hard they’re pushing snaps, to the point it’s basically impossible to get away from them. I’d recommend Fedora or Endeavor instead. I’ve run Endeavor for years now without a hitch, but many of my machines are on NixOS now.
Flatpak is slowly improving. I think the biggest problem with the flatpak ecosystem is lack of widespread understanding by new maintainers of how to package flatpak well - you see a lot of new packages by software authors who don’t yet understand flatpak permissions and package quality suffers for it.
There are some annoyances, like some of the XDG portals being jank, but it’s a solid step towards containerizing and jailing individual apps so they can’t access more of your system than they need to do their job.
Flatpak steam, as an example, is fantastic. You install it, maybe drop in a proton version that works better for your game and you’re ready to go. Same deal with many desktop applications, flatpak discord and others work extremely well and, at least compared to the Arch native versions, don’t break as often.
Edit: Chiming in on Fedora and EndeavourOS, they’re both excellent choices and not much more difficult to use than Ubuntu.
