The teen was seeing King’s court as part of a visit organized by The Greening of Detroit, a nonprofit environmental group. During the visit, King noticed the girl falling asleep, WXYZ reported.
“You fall asleep in my courtroom one more time, I’m gonna put you in back, understood?” the judge said, according to video of his remarks.
King then had the girl change into jail clothes and wear handcuffs.
“It was her whole attitude and her whole disposition that disturbed me,” the judge told WXYZ. “I wanted to get through to her, show how serious this is and how you are to conduct yourself inside of a courtroom.”
He offered to be her mentor to her parents… JFC dude needs to get a reality check outside of his seat of power for a good long while
Imagine if the girl was up late taking care of her siblings, doing homework, maybe she has a health condition…
I can say this much, though: she has already 100% lost faith in the “justice” system.
Then he really did teach her an important lesson! Hooray!
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The article has been updated since I first read it. It sounds like his boss isn’t happy with him at all, which is good news.
For more information about Judge Kenneth King, a public servant, feel free to check out his court appointed phone number and profile at the courts., or reach out with any feedback.
Oh yeah. The rich white male got to do it.
If you want to show her how serious it is, then have her removed. Instead, he’s the one to make a mockery of his own courtroom.
I can’t believe this! This black man knows the shit people have been thru here in Detroit and he just continues this crap with the younger generation. If there is a recall vote on him I’m volunteering.
For some (many) people, once you’ve seen all the shit people have been through for long enough you start to get very jaded to all of it. Judges should to be extra careful to avoid it.
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That was my own version of ‘Scared Straight,’” King said
Oh, really now.
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Ah yes the crime of being forced to lose sleep due to our failing school system. Straight to prison
You know, for a judge, he sure as fuck doesn’t seem to understand mens rea.
She’s a girl, and I don’t think her name was Rea
So what you’re saying is he belongs on the Supreme Court
That ‘judge’ shouls not be allowed to be in that position anymore. Better yet, lock him away
Hang on while I get into my Devil’s Advocate clothes. Gotta . . . get the horns just right . . aaand . . okay. So this is just pretend, right? I’m not really a demon incarnate on Earth to inflict suffering, I’m just a dog on the internet like all of you okay? Okay - just relax. ahem
So, as it happens I have seen a little bit of “real” court - I don’t mean tv shows, I mean actual, y’know, trials and motions and this and that and things. And I have also had some other random experiences that have given me some different insight into court than I had originally anticipated.
Namely, this: a large segment of young people routinely get a large section of their lives cruelly transformed into a literal living hell because they don’t do very simple things: Polite greetings. Common courtesies. Lack of open hostility.
There is definitely a time and a place to challenge authority. Many - times and places, actually, but when you are in front of The Judge to Be Tried is not that time. Yet it happens so, so often. As an extreme example, may I refer everyone to the relatively recent phenomenon of the “sovereign citizen” or “natural human” trend of people who spend a lot of time challenging everyone’s legal authority to act on their lives in any capacity? You may have seen examples of this, why, right here on our very own Lemmy - screenshots and things of people who claim to have challenged traffic stops and magistrates and so on. All to stunningly disastrous effect that somehow never diminishes their zeal for trying it out.
To those people - the young, underrepresented, terrified, courageous people and the old, confused, overprivileged, bold people who find themselves centre stage of a courtroom, I implore you: Mind Your Manners. Because it works.
Yes, the simple “please and thank you” approach to human interactions can prove invaluable at this very time. Even when everyone around you demands that you be your most detatched, your most surly, your rudest, biggest self. “Defend yourself!” they say. “Be strong! Show that judge you won’t take their crap!” - Nay nay. This is poor advice when you are already in the courtroom and the hearing has started.
So if I’m a judge who sees this all the time- every day, seriously every goddamned day - and I get a classroom of kids to come in and listen to What Court Is Like - I’m especially sensitive to the kid who is making a point of being disrespectful. (Editor’s Note: The Devil’s Advocate does not actually know the details of this case. The Devil’s Advocate is working on the assumption that the kid didn’t just ‘fall asleep’ because they were so tired from working 3 jobs but rather they were . . . insubordinate and churlish.)
Yes, as a judge who wants to help all these kids avoid losing a year of their life to juvvie or 20 years to prison or 3 years of very expensive, very stressful probation even - I need them to know this thing: In court - in front of the judge - be nice.
Do YOU know that? Of course you know that. Do you feel differently? Absolutely fine. One must do what one feels is right, of course. It’s intended to be helpful advice. Yes, perhaps our officious and no-doubt imperious judge has overstepped in his misplaced zeal to implore these young people to not, as the kids say, “fuck up”. Perhaps his reprimand will bring us a measure of satisfaction; that a judge should get comeuppance is always delightful. But let us also recognize the situation that led to this difficult predicament for our strident judiciate.
Perhaps, just maybe, the idea that no one wants to be at Court and “If You Are, Do This” is a reasonable lesson that deserves serious consideration.
I take umbrage at the notion that disrespect of the court system is a problem of younger generations. My perception of the Sovereign citizen movement seems to be almost exclusively of the boomer generation, and especially from entitled white boomers. But if there is disrespect fostered in the younger generations of the court system, i would put the blame on the courts themselves. The courts have gone above and beyond to show that they do not concern them selves with fair application of the rule of law.
Disdain for police officers, courts, law makers, the federal government are all well earned. And I welcome the day they are torn down and replaced. Though it is in everyone’s best interest fake respect until the ordeal is over…This is a prime example that vindicates the hatred and distrust in our government systems.
Kids these days, amitire?
https://historyhustle.com/2500-years-of-people-complaining-about-the-younger-generation/
Indeed. When are they finally gonna learn anything, these darn kids.
