Former Osage Principal Chief Jim Gray and his wife Olivia Gray (Osage) recently took to Facebook to condemn their daughter’s world history assignment inquiring about the world’s beginning.

On the assignment sheet, students were asked to answer the overall research question about how the world began. Students were also asked to ponder the following questions:

  • How did the world start?
  • Who started it?
  • When did evil start or did it always exist?
  • Are people inherently good or evil or neither?
  • What is morality?
  • What is religion?
  • What is Christianity?
  • What does it mean to be a Christian?
  • Is God real?
  • Is Satan real?

“I don’t care what anyone says,” Gray said. “If you start out with, ‘How was the world started and then who started it,’ that implies it wasn’t science [and] that it was an entity, a person, a being.”

  • @[email protected]English
    46•27 days ago

    i remember way back in /r/atheism, when the zeitgeist was “we need to respect everyone’s beliefs even if we don’t agree!!!” whenever i would ridicule religion

    yea. so now they not only pay no taxes, but now YOUR taxes are paying for THEIR sunday school, except it’s every day, and it’s compulsory. so glad i don’t have kids

    • JayTreeman
      24•27 days ago

      I hate that idea. Respect every person, not necessarily their beliefs

      • EleventhHourEnglish
        19•27 days ago

        Hear hear. I may respect one’s right to their beliefs, as that’s also my right, but an individual’s beliefs can be dog shit. I have no obligation to respect that.

        • @[email protected]English
          13•27 days ago

          the problem is that the belief has become such an integral part of identity, that anything anyone says about the belief is taken as a statement about the person i.e., “an attack on my beliefs is an attack on ME personally”

          and way too many fucking people just go along with that attitude, like that’s just a fine way to live life, instead of kindergarten-tier fallacious

      • @[email protected]English
        3•27 days ago

        Respect every person, not necessarily their beliefs

        And just while their actions still warrant respect, and no further.

    • @[email protected]English
      11•27 days ago

      I have a son who’s coming up on school age quick. I always wanted to home school him and this is one of the reasons.

      The curriculum I can handle, my concern was always the exclusion and lack of social interaction. So when I found out there’s home schooling groups I was excited.

      After looking into just about every group in my area can you guess what each one has in their curriculum and at the center of their core beliefs?

      Religion. They’re all nutty religion “schools”. Turns out that’s what a big part of homeschooling is in a lot of places. I guess to them public school teaches too much of that pesky wicked algebra and not enough about the lords word.

      • @[email protected]English
        4•27 days ago

        exclusion and lack of social interaction

        that’s one of the most important features of mandatory religious indoctrination-- any kids who aren’t jesusey enough become targets of bullying/discrimination, and seeing how bullies face no consequences already, then it’s not hard to see even the most skeptical kids start toeing the line

  • @[email protected]English
    22•27 days ago

    They’ll say there are no wrong answers. They’ll say they discussed everybody’s answers/opinions. They’ll say a lot of things, and talk is cheap. This is THE epitome of BAD FAITH.