• Gull@kbin.social
      21·
      1 year ago

      Just like every “grassroots” political campaign on Reddit that suddenly arises, and then disappears just as suddenly after failing.

      • EuphoricPenguin@normalcity.lifeEnglish
        6·
        1 year ago

        As an LLM-powered protester, I have been prompted by Reddit HQ to tell you that your line of thinking is wrong and u/spez is a beautiful boy. bleep bloop

    • deaf_fish@lemm.ee
      3·
      1 year ago

      I’ve seen some people on here questioning why this stuff was happening and what was the point.

      You have to assume that they just needed explained plainly. Which is hard to do because you can never tell the scabs from the honest people online.

    • antec_30k@lemm.ee
      2·
      1 year ago

      Granted, it’s plausible that longtime lurkers have created accounts to post about this, since this is the first time that Reddit drama has affected them. But I’ve largely been avoiding Reddit since the blackout so I don’t know.

  • TooL@kbin.social
    31·
    1 year ago

    Huh… my feed has been nothing but straight porn or pictures of John Oliver… sometimes both at the same time.

    • zedtronic@kbin.social
      25·
      1 year ago

      Reddit is now filled with a bunch of people saying “we don’t even NEED mods! they just make everything worse!”, because this is apparently their first time on the Internet.

    • wafer@kbin.social
      15·
      1 year ago

      The people that cared distanced themselves already so a new majority of indifference starts to emerge. Those that are still active on Reddit are now more likely to just want things back to normal.

    • claymedia@lemmy.world
      2·
      1 year ago

      Either only the scabs are left, or there’s a concerted smear campaign against the mods who helped with the blackout. I lean towards the latter, but it’s probably both.

      • Gargleblaster@kbin.social
        2·
        1 year ago

        There’s a lot of upset users who had no idea that a protest had been planned for weeks ahead of time or that the protests made the news.

        They just showed up looking for their content, and having it cut off is like when your heroin supplier leaves town.

        I talked to some kid who was furious he couldn’t see r/starwars.

        And he blamed it all on the mods.

        When I explained the whole history of what was happening, he said he supported the protest but wanted to subs to go public again.

        :/

    • Raji_Lev@kbin.socialOP
      2·
      1 year ago

      I only went over today cause a couple of the subs I frequent had temporarily opened to ask “Should we stay blacked out?”

      Not planning to make that mistake again anytime soon

  • ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca
    20·
    1 year ago

    I mean…what’s wrong with that? The original meme talks about society, something you can’t opt-out of.

    You can absolutely opt-out of Reddit. Reddit is a private company and it’s CEO has announced he doesn’t care what the users of the site think, he will be making any changes he damn well pleases. Continuing to use the site after the CEO has already given a hardline “No” to all requests (and then telling the media he idolizes Musk and his overhaul of Twitter) is implicitly accepting you’re fine with the answer and the changes.

    • mkhoury@lemmy.ca
      28·
      1 year ago

      I think the problem stems from the fact that Reddit and other ‘private’ businesses are acting like public squares. People use these systems as public spaces in which they can build communities, relationships and ideas. It’s not just a question of “well it’s private so they can do whatever they want”. Lawful is the same thing as ethical. Some people on Reddit have their society on Reddit. What does Reddit owe them? It’s a demand to ask ‘How should Reddit and other businesses participate in society in a way that is ethical and helpful?’

      • ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca
        12·
        1 year ago

        I think the problem stems from the fact that Reddit and other ‘private’ businesses are acting like public squares.

        Oh absolutely, but is that the fault of the private company or the people who use it? There are now alternatives that are decentralized and run on free open source software with the specific purpose of creating public spaces that can exist without pressures from CEOs, shareholders, and advertisers. Why not use them instead of whining on Twitter about Twitter or complaining on Reddit about Reddit?

        • mkhoury@lemmy.ca
          19·
          1 year ago

          You know why. Network effects, usability, marketing, astroturfing, etc.

          We need to do a better job at making the Fediverse more inviting and easier to use. Have a better, clear path for migration.

          • CynAq@kbin.social
            9·
            1 year ago

            We should start by designing better and more informative UX, and ditch the email analogies altogether.

            Nobody imagines the correct thing when we harp on about how decentralized and amazing everything is, analogous to email but also reddit and twitter combined but also different but it doesn’t matter because it’s all the same in the end.

            • r4venw@kbin.social
              3·
              1 year ago

              I’ve actually had a lot of success explaining this all like email; where you and I can create our accounts on different “email services” (instances) yet still be be able to communicate. Using something so ingrained in every day life makes it much more approachable, imo.

              Once that concept is understood, simply saying that the fediverse, aka everyone who uses this technology, has alternatives to most of the major social media sites is not beyond most people. I mean, we’re all here, right?

          • Th4tGuyII@kbin.social
            3·
            1 year ago

            Problem is how do you make migration easy without running into centralisation again. You ideally need to spread people out across the Fediverse, or we will just end up with another monolithic Reddit that can do what it wants

            • mkhoury@lemmy.ca
              1·
              1 year ago

              I think one way to help this is to make migration from one server to another really, really, really frictionless. Like to be able to do so on a whim with very little drawback if any.

              It might allow people to start off in a central thing but then be able to hop to a smaller instance once they get their Fediverse legs.

        • Gull@kbin.social
          1·
          1 year ago

          Instances are still privately operated and at the whim of their operators, who are technically free to delete and modify posts arbitrarily. They are not public spaces.

      • Untitled9999@kbin.social
        10·
        1 year ago

        People use these systems as public spaces in which they can build communities

        What really amused me is when Reddit sent messages to moderators saying things like “your subreddits are public spaces which users depend on, so you should open them”.

        When obviously what they mean is “your decision to close your subreddit is hurting our revenues, and if I don’t keep up the payments on my BMW then I’ll be forced to drive an old Honda, so either open the subreddit or we will forcibly do it ourselves”.

  • blaamejsen@feddit.dk
    19·
    1 year ago

    There’s a new post from Christian Selig where he addresses false statements from Reddit on the front page. It has 109k upvotes 😂

  • zaktmt@kbin.social
    15·
    1 year ago

    I’ve been lurking on old.reddit.com and I’ve seen a lot of people who are upset about the protesting. They are calling it childish, they are calling protesters white knights, etc. If you go on r/JustUnsubbed you can see a bunch of people whining about it. But it really just shows people don’t get it nor do they care to. They just care about being mildly inconvenienced.

      • zaktmt@kbin.social
        9·
        1 year ago

        Some of them are starting to go on r/Save3rdPartyApps to tell people who are upset to “get off our high horse” lol

        It’s just sad that people are trying to defend corporate greed man…

              • dismalnow@kbin.social
                3·
                1 year ago

                @Syltti

                @Raji_Lev @zaktmt @sour

                It’s a very poor analogy.

                I suppose it works better like so:

                Imagine…

                You’re in line at McDonald’s talking to a buddy about how Burger King has better quality, is free, and that you’ll not be returning to McDonald’s in July because their burgers are going to cost $0.24 per microgram, and the owner is a clown.

                Someone unaffiliated with McDonald’s who is also standing in hears your comment and starts shouting for you to “GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSE!”

                … not because they don’t like Burger King.
                … not because they have never tried Burger King.

                But because they closely identify with McDonald’s, and the clown that represents it.

                Hope that’s clear. Heh

      • lemillionsocks@beehaw.org
        2·
        1 year ago

        I got banned from there because years ago for disagreeing with someone that a post was “being upvoted because girl” and politely pointed out to him that it wasnt really, and that he was a baby.

        I can understand the wanting to vent about a sub declining, because reddit certainly has lots of declined subreddits, but a lot of it was the usual “THIS IS TOO POLITICAL!” “THIS ATTENTIONWHORE GOT UPVOTED BYE BYE” and etc.

  • lowleveldata@programming.dev
    14·
    1 year ago

    Me commenting before the protest

    “You are NOT contributing with those low effort comments”

    Me commenting after the protest

    “ANY kind of interaction is contributing!”

  • Tashlan@kbin.social
    13·
    1 year ago

    The contempt reddit’s defenders have for reddit is a bit boggling. They seem to truly hate the site and the communities they want to be open, and they seem to truly hate the mods. Spez ought to be careful with friends like that, they are guaranteed to dislike whatever his next subreddit banning is

    • 🐱TheCat
      91·
      1 year ago

      Can we talk about how this cycle follows all communities?

      The beginning: Mostly pioneers who are fine with chance of failure, fine with putting in work to build community, fine with change / adaptation, high ratio of people who will contribute something without many expectations. High ratio of people who chafe at too many rules.

      The middle: Things are popular now. Some pioneers have moved on, being unable to deal with the needed structure to manage large communities, but the mix of people is good and structure is needed anyhow. There are some low effort people around but there are still many contributors. People are starting to have more expectations of something so large and influential, though.

      The end: Things are stagnant now. All the pioneers have fled. Those left behind are either 1) low energy people who fear change, fear risk, dislike putting much effort into anything without certainty of reward and thus don’t contribute much or 2) increasingly tired and burnt out community managers who have stayed behind out of a sense of duty to manage the hoards of people in #1.

      Or maybe I am being too much of a cynic.

        • VeeSilverball@kbin.social
          2·
          1 year ago

          That is a tendency with long-running MMOs. Planetside has gone the same way and until the day the subreddit closed for the protest, there were zombie players in every thread gaslighting the community about a “dead game” that is still very alive. They can’t move on, there’s nothing like it.

      • DigitalTraveler42@lemmy.world
        1·
        1 year ago

        So reddit is becoming World of Warcraft a cult.

        It’s just like Elon and his Twitter sycophants, or any other version of this type of cult-ish behavior.

  • bionicjoey@lemmy.ca
    9·
    1 year ago

    I appreciate the idea that they are doing their best to make the protest impossible to ignore.

    • nottheengineer@feddit.de
      7·
      1 year ago

      The people bringing actual content there have mostly left from what I can tell, now it’s almost all reposts.

      Unfortunately that seems to be enough to sustain a platform nowadays.

        • ShellSurf@kbin.social
          1·
          1 year ago

          Reminds me of the dead internet theory. What if all that’s left on Reddit is bots posting? New content could be asking AI to generate a “cute puppy picture” and post in on r/aww, and that could all be done by a bot.

        • nottheengineer@feddit.de
          0·
          1 year ago

          They are so easy to spot that I’m convinced they are deployed by reddit themselves.

          Unfortunately they can still copy content from other platforms. The comments will probably devolve, but investors hardly care about that.

          “Average words per comment” would probably be a good metric for the quality of discussion on the platform.