• SulaymanF@lemmy.world
    9·
    7 days ago

    The NRA would scream about it and MAGA would turn it into demonizing the rich; “y’all can afford bodyguards!”

  • Snapz@lemmy.world
    5·
    7 days ago

    “Now is not the time to focus on solutions to CEO shootings, we’re thinking and praying, and then we just need to move on… As then it won’t be time to look in the past.”

    • frayedpickles@lemmy.cafeEnglish
      1·
      7 days ago

      Worst way to kill. Person immediately loses blood pressure and goes unconscious.

      Def want poison mushrooms so you shit your organs out first. Plus you can claim it was a pre-existing condition.

  • blandfordforever@lemm.ee
    118·
    8 days ago

    JD Vance says that school shootings are just a “fact of life.”

    I wonder if all this rage and hopelessness is starting to find a more productive outlet.

    • kreskin@lemmy.world
      9·
      7 days ago

      JD Vance says that school shootings are just a “fact of life.”

      Then it’s logical that preventing politician shootings should be budgeted similarly. Time to defund the entire secret service as part of those 75% government employee cuts. School shootings being resourced differently than oligarch shootings is a violation of the equal protections clause of the constitution, and therefore an illegal waste of our tax money.

    • WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.worldEnglish
      441·
      7 days ago

      If the choice is between school shootings or CEO shootings, the latter is preferrable. I’d take that trade even if I were a CEO, but I doubt most CEO’s would.

  • ccunning@lemmy.world
    781·
    8 days ago

    The children should consider working harder to increase shareholder value…

    • Diplomjodler@lemmy.world
      51·
      7 days ago

      Those hard working school shooters are doing their best to promote growth in the funeral home industry. Won’t anybody think of the jobs!?!

    • ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      22·
      7 days ago

      Tbf that’s one of the ones they typically try to pass. One of the more popular ideas (outside of feature bans) is “tax the shit out of them.” In effect that means “stop the dirty poors from having them, but a rich guy who can pay the tax is fine.”

      • dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️@lemmy.world
        6·
        7 days ago

        This was literally the basis of the National Firearms Act, which is a federal gun law we very much already have and have done for a long time. It was originally enacted in the 1930’s with the express purpose of preventing the blacks poors from achieving arms parity with which to defend themselves from whites the rich, and had a specific focus on “concealable” arms which could conceivably be used to take out high profile political targets. Which is something that was at the forefront of every seedy politician’s mind in the era coming right out of Prohibition and leading into the Great Depression, I’m sure. Boy, that sounds eerily familiar.

        The NFA bans a wide swath of arms and arms adjacent things including short barreled rifles and shotguns, fully automatic guns, and silencers/suppressors.

        Oh, wait. Did I say “banned?” It actually just slaps a mandatory $200 federal tax on them with a ton of paperwork, with failure to comply under penalty of the ATF kicking in your door and shooting your dog. Note that in the 1930’s $200 was an exorbitant amount of money that would be absolutely unattainable for the working classes simply to afford a shooty toy, but was easily within reach of the robber barons of the time. Oh, and the police and military also got a full exception. Of course. For reference, $200 in 1934 dollars (when this was passed) is equivalent to $4,711.40 today. And for further perspective, a nice shotgun in 1935 would cost you around $40 in the currency of that time.

        “Sure, boy, you can own that gun. All you have to do is file all this extra paperwork and pay us five times more than what it’s worth in taxes.”

        Related fun fact: The original incarnation of the NFA was originally intended to apply to all handguns. Think about that one for a minute.

        (Edit: This was meant as an addition, not a correction.)

        • ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com
          3·
          7 days ago

          Yes, and basically what I’m saying is

          A) That’s bad, the us poors (not trying to speak for you, but that includes me lol I’m poor af) deserve the right to SBRs, SBSs, suppressors, AOWs and IMO, FA, just as much as any rich bastard who can pay the fees.

          And

          B) As we can see from this very incident, taxing it does fuck all, murders can still happen even with those taxes, and by a poor without stamps at that. Even if we amended that tax to be the price of a Corolla today, I guarantee he didn’t even pay the $200 tax (if he did he’d have had a booster on the can lol), if you’re going to murder a dude on camera at 6am on a busy street in a city where suppressors are illegal you’re not gonna fill out a form 4.

      • pyre@lemmy.world
        4·
        7 days ago

        “pay the tax” lol … nah they’ll just get tax breaks and find loopholes on top. paying taxes is for plebs.

      • jaybone@lemmy.world
        51·
        7 days ago

        Most school shooters, and probably hoodie guy, own their guns legally. Most other types of crime, like robbery, the guns used are stolen or illegal anyway.

        • ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com
          2·
          7 days ago

          Well, hoodie guy is dubious. It’s almost impossible to get a gun legally in NYC, upstate it is a bit easier depending on the county, but it’s still not super easy. 100% he wasn’t carrying it legally at least, but I highly suspect from watching the video that he’s using a poorly milled “ghost gun” (because he had to spank it into battery after he cleared a malfunction) which is illegal in NY, and a homemade suppressor without a Neilson device (because it wasn’t cycling the slide at all, causing those malfunctions,) which is illegal federally (well, kinda, but why Form 1 one of those?!)

          As for school shooters, many do, but many steal them from parents as well. In either case “taxes” are not the answer, poor people deserve the right just as much as rich people, and they have just as big of a need for it (if not more, being that rich people can employ security and are targeted less often than you think).

  • Th4tGuyII@fedia.io
    501·
    7 days ago

    Oh absolutely. Start letting the gun violence get too close to home and the rich will force that legislation through overnight

    • kreskin@lemmy.world
      5·
      6 days ago

      I keep seeing evidence that the rich don’t give 1% of a shit about the rest of us, but I keep sending myself “thoughts and prayers” that that’s not totally true and we don’t have an open class war going on in the US.

    • chiliedogg@lemmy.world
      21·
      7 days ago

      A reminder that California’s famously strict gun laws started as a Republican reaction to black people owning guns and forming citizen militias to protect their neighborhoods from criminals and oppressive government thugs.

      • Gammelfisch@lemmy.world
        4·
        7 days ago

        Indeed, Ronnie Racist Fucking Reagan and a senator who panicked when the armed Black Panthers(?) walked into the State Capitol building during a protest. Before that, California was open carry, locked and loaded.

    • Aneb@lemmy.world
      6·
      7 days ago

      Exactly this. But you wont see one gun from rich people, while the rest of us have to mandatory turn in our guns. There are no laws for people that can throw money at the courthouse to let them do what they want. In america its only “legal” to do illegal shit if your rich

  • Codex@lemmy.world
    45·
    7 days ago

    Many school shooters talk about wanting to be seen, wanting fame/notoriety, and so on. With the huge positive response to this, it wouldn’t be too surprising to see copycats. “If I do this, people will remember me and love me for it.”