Recent coverage of Gaza and the West Bank illustrates that, while corporate media occasionally outright call for expelling Palestinians from their land, more often the way these outlets support ethnic cleansing is by declining to call it ethnic cleansing.

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      Originally it was. Now, in the aftermath of said ethnic cleansing, it’s like a byword for genocide-lite.

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        The term kind of has the implication that things will be less dirty and more organised when it’s done.

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          Pretty much. The Nazis thought of their thing that way, and as Wikipedia points out even used similar language, but fascists don’t need more than a paper thin justification for why it’s totally different this time to keep their rhetoric going. It’s not based on logic, after all, and anyone making the obvious historical comparisons can just be cast as more victimisation of them for their “honesty”.

          We all are pretty comfortable calling Bosnia a genocide now, though, so they’ve moved on to new euphemisms like “remigration”.

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      No, ethnic cleansing does not necessarily imply killing. It is the forced depopulation of an area, which can be by means of deportation, economic pressure, threat of violence, etc. Genocide is the most extreme form of ethnic cleansing.

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          I feel like in common use it does. Some formal definitions don’t require it, but then there’s contradicting formal definitions.

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            Yes, and you can destroy a group by means other than killing its members, such as forced sterilization, systematic abuse, or the transfer of children away from the community. It’s the demo that’s being killed, not necessarily its individual members.

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            You’re incorrect on this one. Abducting “enemy” children and brainwashing them is genocide. Erasing local language from books and signage is genocide. Part of the definition. You can kill an ethnicity by erasing it and not have to kill a single person.

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                maybe read the actual convention on genocide instead of relying on a dictionary then?

                because the case of abducted children stated above is explicitly stated in the convention…the dictionary definition you found is simply wrong and incomplete.

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                  The definition isn’t wrong, they just didn’t read it correctly. Those things in the UN convention are methods that could be used to “cause the destruction of a people”. They’re spelled out to avoid people misinterpreting the definition just like they did.

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    Y’all ever notice that arguments about how to call something steal oxygen away from what to do about it?

    Genocide, ethnic cleansing, and mass-murder are just words. Calling it a pumpkin pie won’t bring back one dead child.

    Reality is independent from language. Words borrow meaning, they’re not the source of it.

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      Genocide, ethnic cleansing, and mass-murder are just words.

      And language is extremely important to how we think and form our understanding of the world.

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      There’s no such thing as just words.

      Language is humanity’s superpower. It’s what allows us to share ideas, pass down knowledge generationaly, specialize labor, and form communities.

      Words have meaning, and intentionally avoiding words that accurately describe events is incredibly harmful. There’s a reason that when a school is bombed, they call a bunch of the 13-17yo victims “military-aged males” instead of “children.”

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      Words are importing because 80% of the population is unable to assert reality and will accept whatever wording is provided to them. Even when provided with evidence in 4K.

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      Yeah but by turning people away from the media we also isolate them from groups with similar ideals, forcing them into bubbles/echo-chambers which are easily radicalized to promote violence and insurgency.

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    Can we all just agree there is no “good” media? Journalism died for profits

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      No, there are some great independent outlets that are still doing exceptional journalism. Many of the new outlets were founded by reporters who came from mainstream or traditional media but were either laid off or quit because of the profit-above-all-else mindset. As citizens and news consumers this means we have to be pickier and more discerning when it comes to what we read, because we can’t trust that we’ll get everything we need from just a single newspaper anymore. But if you look around you’ll still find some very high quality journalism, it’s just a bit more diffuse than we’re used to.

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      You could just read it and make your own list instead of asking someone else to get AI to do it for them so they can collate a list for you.