Surprised it didn’t rewrite it’s own X with blackjack and concurrency
wait until you hear about this project called lemmy
Lemmy was written in Rust?
(Edit: damn, over 75% of the codebase is rust. Nice)
I’m actually surprised there aren’t already 20 alternatives to Twitter written in Rust
There could be. How would you know?
Anyway, I don’t think the world needs 20 different alternatives to Twitter, just like we don’t need 20 alternatives to Linux, Python, the W3C, or Rust.
What seems ideal is a single dominant system run by people whose authority comes from a broad consensus of the stakeholders, plus a limited number of competitors that could conceivably take over, but only if the dominant system is badly mismanaged. Having alternatives keeps the market leaders honest and provides space to try out new ideas that can either serve a different niche or be incorporated into the dominant system, but in a space where compatibility and network effects are so important, I want there to be a clear leader that most users can rally around, and that most developers can target to benefit the greatest number of users.
You mean with blaconcurrkjackency?
Nitter link: https://nitter.net/rustlang/status/1908479478159818903
It’s funny how many people are against this. They sure do like to lick elon’s boots.
Rust is… woke?!?
I love this gif, where’d you get it from?
I searched “garten of banban sad gif” on tenor
It’s funny how many people care one way or another. It’s a programming language, and if I want updates, I’ll check their changelog. They have incredibly consistent releases, so why would I need a notification on SM when they release again on that schedule?
I don’t get it. Post or don’t, I don’t care, just write good code.
Those people wrote a “hello world” and gave up after having to do something using an ampsand (&)
Holy crap. I don’t go on Twitsack any more but I guess I shouldn’t be surprised the remaining people are clowns.
Honestly I’m laughing at those comments. Most of them are outright pathetic, not just sad or annoyed or smug but childish and pathetic.
The people in support there likely got deprioritized.
I don’t understand why any business is active on any social media, especially ones run by billionaires.
Post your shit to a website.
Have it auto-mirror to a social media platform.
Funnel questions back to your own website.
Done.
I have been recently reminiscing with some friends about the internet back when instead of massive websites that held everything, there were small forums with specialized focus. You could get to know the people in the forums over time. It was so much better than the shit that exists today.
I would love to join forums made by these projects. I don’t care if I have to have a bunch of accounts. Individual forums and RSS feeds are awesome. Since moving to RSS I have drastically reduced my mindless scrolling.
Ah yes phpBB those were the days. Wait, no they weren’t. They sucked. Old forum software was one of the worst computing experiences I remember.
Want to download a custom Android ROM? Hope you like reading through this 120 page thread one page at a time. Oh and each message will be surrounded by a metric mile of profile pictures and signature.
RSS was pretty great though, I’ll give you that.
rss is still everywhere.
Flat forums weren’t just for downloading Android ROMs. Forums were meant for linear one-to-one discussion. All the eye bleed can be disabled anyways. I haven’t looked at avatars or signatures in decades.
Besides has there been a better solution? People were still using XDA forums last I checked. Which has been several years so I don’t know. XDA evolved around dedicated individuals who kept a top post updated with relevant info. So the problem was kind of solved after a while.
Forums and irc channels is a much better combo than twitter and discord.
Marketers are lazy.
Consumers are lazy and are trained that anything not on an app is dangerous and scary.
As a privacy advocate, I have the opposite reaction: almost every app is dangerous and scary. If it doesn’t have a nice mobile web app, I’ll try to avoid it on my phone.
Have it auto-mirror to a social media platform.
That’s what it is most of the time. The thing is that native content just does a lot better than linked content. Think about how often someone will see a link and not click it. If they don’t have to click and you meet them on the website they’re already on, your content is consumed a lot more. I’m not just talking about so-called “content creators”, but also things like what the Rust account would post.
It’s pretty easy to automate posting content instead of just a link.
Marketing. People expect to see different things on a website vs Twitter/X so the same content won’t perform the same on each. So for a business it makes sense to post different things on your website vs Twitter/X.
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Rust is a programming language.
Rust is the stuff metal gets
No. Rust is a multiplayer map featured in Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2
1v1 me in C++
Go
You’re Basic
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No, Rust is a multiplayer survival game
The stuff Iron gets.
Good. No one with any sense still uses that site.
I’m happy with doing so just so I can see comments without signing in again. I do believe social media was geting too highly censored, and I dont trust the government to decide what to censor.
But you cant call yourself the “town square of the internet” while hiding things from people you cant monetize.
Yep. Twitter and Discord are the two most annoying walled gardens I can think of when it comes to projects (like FOSS dev).
Good news, it was mostly private for profit entities doing the censorship
Thank you! I mean how many more reasons do people need?
Trump has now ordered NIST to reverse their recommendation on Rust.
Fuck you and have a nice day.
I knew what it was but clicked anyways.
Darn. Problem with the Fediverse is you don’t know how things will render on other people’s clients.
I wasn’t on X, but now I’ve created a mastodon account :)
You’ve managed to create a 2+years old account, congrats
Huh? I might be misunderstanding something (maybe a joke, even!), but this is my lemmy account, that’s kinda older indeed. How would that be connected to my mastodon account?
Eh. I mixed them. My bad.
Why are people using bluesky? Just use mastodon or something else federated. Stay are from centralized platforms
@secret300 @neme They want old Twitter back, not federation.
It does have federation, just a different model
Technically yes, practically no
Essentially it’s a centralized platform. Independent PDS cannot work without a big expensive relay managed by a large corporation
There’s work ongoing right now in making it easier to run a small appview, and the relay is cheaper to run than the appview and very manageable by even small companies
The relay is very expensive, it collects and receives messages from the whole network.
The appview it’s not the problem, that’s just an user of the relay.
See this article
The appview needs to index the relay contents to build a view of the whole network, the relay is just a type of CDN, and is NOT that expensive. There are multiple individuals maintaining full copies right now, while the network is at double digit millions of users. The relay is by far less expensive.
You’re looking at poorly matched cloud options in that article. The individuals doing it does it easily on a NAS and equivalent. The cost from running public relays will come from traffic, not storage
It’s the appview that needs to be made lighter, and that work is progressing. Like building variants you can self host which are selective and only care about content from your network (and only fetching other content as needed)
The appview needs to index the relay contents to build a view of the whole network, the relay is just a type of CDN, and is NOT that expensive. There are multiple individuals maintaining full copies right now, while the network is at double digit millions of users. The relay is by far less expensive.
Great, but how much do these people pay to maintain a relay of the entire network? I bet a lot more than for a fediverse server that only has to maintain a small fraction of the whole network.
There is another problem: these other relays are all copies of the Bluesky relay, where the official app publishes the messages of its users, so they are not independent from each other; if I publish my posts on a relay other than Bluesky’s I will not be able to communicate with them.
Fediverse servers can quickly get more expensive if you have a few thousand users, or even a few dozen but somebody has a post go viral. That’s because every retrieval of a post always goes to the original user’s server, every like does too, etc, and this generates a flood of events which quickly gets expensive to process.
Just ask the maintainers of the botsin.space Mastodon server who couldn’t afford to keep it running, and now put the server in archival mode and not allowing new posts.
A PDS only publishes static data and don’t have to process incoming events, making it very easy to run one behind a caching server very cheaply.
There is another problem: these other relays are all copies of the Bluesky relay, where the official app publishes the messages of its users, so they are not independent from each other; if I publish my posts on a relay other than Bluesky’s I will not be able to communicate with them.
Not entirely correct.
Every individual users’ account host (PDS) publishes directly locally, the relay then collects published posts from known PDS servers (including both bluesky’s own and others’ self hosted servers) and display everything. A PDS server can sync to multiple relays. Relays can even sync to each other, which is practical because PDS servers publish through content addressing for posts in user repositories so it’s easy to verify completeness.
So sure if somebody uses an app connected to a filtering / partial / out of sync relay they might not see everything. This is not an architectural limit in the protocol, however.
First off they are using Mastodon. And secondly Mastodon is still pretty half baked as a platform. If it was as far along as Lemmy is, which is ironic because I think Mastodon was developed first, then people would probably be using it more. I just don’t think anyone’s putting in the man hours to streamline it the way they have with Lemmy.
Lol
That’s crazy.
@neme After reading the replies on this post on X, I realized that leaving X is definitely a good idea.
Nice.
I still dont get why people use bluesky. I mean if you really want a pseudo federated social media, might as well use twitter and not migrate. Its ridiculous.
Because it is a decently polished app that is by many metrics a step up from Twitter, and it has a ton of people. Social networks will always be a numbers game. Some will hit the curve and some won’t, but it is often not linked to technical merit.
I assume people want something centralised like Twitter but without Musk. Most people don’t care about federation and don’t want the extra complexity and division it causes.
It doesn’t create division if properly designed, and Mastodon honestly does it rather well generally. There are just two things that hampered its adoption, which was the bad “default” app everyone installed as well as the network’s inability to scale absurdly fast.
It’s like with proper cities with lots of stores vs. big box stores. The latter might got everything in one place, but it fucks up everything around it. And a well designed city with lots of small stores is way more beautiful and pleasing in every aspect.
^(Yes I watch NotJustBikes, how do you know?)^
Network effect. Its where everyone is.
Bluesky is excellent that’s why.
Moderation is better, including better personal moderation filters, etc
if you really want a pseudo federated social media
The vast majority of people don’t, they simply want something like what Twitter was before elon ruined it. If the Twitter exodus resulted in mass adoption of federated platforms, it’d be a happy coincidence.
