• BarqsHasBite@lemmy.world
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    For people like me wondering:

    The Katyn massacre was a series of mass executions of nearly 22,000 Polish military officers and intelligentsia prisoners of war carried out by the Soviet Union, specifically the NKVD in April and May 1940. Wikipedia

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    When OP conveniently forgets history under the guise of a joke. Germany was divided in two, remember?

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      The Soviets were the boogeyman to the Germans aswel. Taking people in the dead of night, evicting farmers from there land and replacing them with communist sympathizers, stealing, all that nasty stuff.

      I remember reading a diary of a German officer who discribed the Soviets during the first few years of the occupation as “rag tag”, no standard dress code or discipline which is pretty funny given current events

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    Poland was literally shifted to the West to satisfy Stalin’s fetish for buffer zones. They were betrayed by the USSR too during the Warsaw Uprising and later abandoned by the West after the War. If I am a Polish citizen, I would be digging up gramp’s Mosin from the backyard now.

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        Which country here was commmnist? The USSR was never able to move beyond state capitalism on the roadmap to communism.

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          The part where they were “on the roadmap to communism” is what makes them “a communist country.”

          Every country that’s been “on the roadmap to communism” somehow gets stuck at the dictatorship phase.

          Maybe having a dictatorship phase is a stupid fucking idea.

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            I don’t get this, there’s an effective definition you can use, socialist or marxist-leninist, but you insist on calling them communist which they didn’t even call themselves

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                  This only works if you have counterexamples.

                  North Korea’s giant-air-quotes “democracy” is different from every other actual democracy.

                  “Communist” government are all the failure modes y’all insist don’t count. Every single one.

                  You don’t have to stop advocating for the utopian end goal, to acknowledge what’s happened, in practice, in the name of that pursuit. Unless you want to grant to libertarian jerkoffs that without total deregulation for perfectly informed consumers, “capitalism has never been tried.”

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                Had no clue looking at the name of a country or the party in charge was a substitute for politically analyzing a country. Also, that party literally said the Soviet Union hadn’t reached communism which is obvious if you know what communism is supposed to mean.

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    Here in Romania, we’re exactly like the Poles. There’s deep, deep national trauma related to Russia ( even before the USSR ).

    However, it’s not the same everywhere in the former soviet block, places like Bulgaria, Hungary or Slovakia are far more torn on the issue.