We dug into how American tipping culture got so broken, and the fight to fix it.

It turns out that your tips are subsidizing the payrolls of multi-billion dollar chains, while they pay their workers under minimum wage.

It’s a system rooted in slavery, and pushed by a wealthy restaurant owners onto the rest of us.

But there’s a growing movement to change it.

    • Bonskreeskreeskree@lemmy.world
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      Customers unable to give their money to a business due to understaffing as a result of shit wages and people refusing to tip sends a much stronger message

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        No it doesn’t. It just hurts the workers.

        Customers refusing to do business sends a message. If you still give the business your money they don’t give a fuck if their workers get tips.

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          And subsidising shit wages just helps employers keep up a shitty system that only they benefit from. Sorry if this sucks but maybe some workers should get behind this idea as well instead of always playing victim.

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            So stop going to places that expect tips! You don’t have to use these services. Just stop.

            You just want to have your treats and give up nothing and pretend like you’re helping.

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              Okay, thanks for the advice but I already don’t frequent businesses that exploit their employees and you have no reason to assume I do.

              You made the assumption I do just so you could get a snarky remark in, not to make a meaningful counterpoint.

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                I’m sure you don’t 🤫

                But what I said applies to everyone - just refuse to do business with these places. Don’t give them your money and then refuse to tip. That’s psychotic lol

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                  Yes, your incredulity certainly makes your argument much stronger. But postulating obvious platitudes is what really drives your point home.

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      Why? Never tip ever. Support unions and strikes.

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        Stop going to places that tip

        You’re just helping their boss steal income from the mouths of people forced to serve you for poverty wages. If you actually gave a shit you’d stop giving their oppressors money in the first place. But you don’t. You want your treats.

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          The workers need to stand up to their employers. As long as you have waiters defending tipping culture with “But I make more money like this” it will not change

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            The workers don’t need you to bully them into standing up to their employers. That’s basically accelerationism - the idea that if the workers suffer enough they will be forced to fight back.