Ok, but what is XMPP?
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Denshi explains the basics of XMPP: The future of decentralized messaging.Taken from a presentation I did on 2023/10/23.This presentation is made using Suckl...

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I recently saw Alex’s video about XMPP and I got curious.

I am using Element and Schildichat a bit, trying Element X and curious about the new Development here. It seems vibrant, they rewrite stuff in rust, the Apps are fancy and all.

But I tried Conversations and it seems based too, has transparent encryption, it is damn fast, usable, supports groups and files and all. Probably doesnt use the latest fancy Android SDKs but it seems solid.

I was surprised about how fast it was, as Matrix drastically varies per server. But also I found many dead communities, and in general I dont see XMPP at all, while many Projects (if not using Discord, bruh…) have a Matrix room.

How secure is OMEMO in todays standards? Or OpenPGP, compared to Matrix or Signal Encryption? I heard it also has rotating keys and all.

There are other things, like permission systems, chosen federation, privacy, bridge support and more, that are interesting. Are there advanced modern WebUIs for XMPP you like?

I saw that it uses up waaay less resources, why is that? Really, is “simply encrypted mail” somehow worse in an important way?

Similar to IRC, where I never found nice usable apps for my taste, I thought XMPP was deprecated, but that doesnt seem so?

What can you tell me about XMPP, is it modern, secure, privacy friendly?

  • activistPnk@slrpnk.net
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    1 year ago

    Similar to IRC, where I never found nice usable apps for my taste, I thought XMPP was deprecated, but that doesnt seem so?

    A very easy to use phone app is #Snikket. When I force normies to reach me over XMPP, I generally suggest Snikket to them. For the desktop I like the text UI of profanity. But it is glitchy and would be hard to use for anyone who lives in the shelter of a GUI.

    #Matrix is theoretically decentralized but the mere fact that the flagship instance is on #Cloudflare suggests the developers are not on the ball about privacy or digital rights. Whenever I have been asked to join a Matrix room, there was reference to that Cloudflare instance, so I refuse it.

    #Signal has many problems. I won’t even consider touching it as long as supplying a mobile phone number is a registration requirement.

    (btw, i did not see the youtube video so I don’t know if it covered the problems I mention)