• letsgo@lemm.ee
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      Is there a similar implication for stairs when people fall down them?

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      In that case, does “I fell in a hole” imply that the hole is horizontal and going sideways?

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    To me, if you partially fall into a hole, ie. foot falls into a small pothole, you’ve fallen in it but not down it.

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      If I’m walking around in a hole and stumble, I’ve also fallen in a hole (but not into/down)

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        Yes, although I think that’s parsed differently-- you’ve [fallen] [in a hole] not [fallen in] [a hole]

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      Yeah. I feel like fell down implies you travelled some not insignifcant distance while falling.

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    Well this changes that Alice In Chains song for me 🕳️

    But this is something that makes English both frustrating and fascinating!

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    Out of curiosity, shouldn’t there be a comma after the “or” in the third panel?

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      Grammatically, no, because “or” is a coordinating conjunction (for, and, nor, but, or, yet, so), and coordinating conjunctions are a way to join two independent clauses, like a semicolon. They are used after an independent clause and a comma, and they are followed by another coordinating conjunction.

      Here’s two independent clauses: I got scratched by a cat. I’m sad.

      Here’s a way to join them with a semicolon: I got scratched by a cat; I’m sad. The semicolon replaces the period.

      Here’s a way to join them with a coordinating conjunction: I got scratched by a cat, so I’m sad. The , so replaces the semicolon/period.

      Note that I got scratched by a cat so, I’m sad is incorrect, because to join two independent clauses, you’re supposed to put the comma first and then the conjunction, in that order. Colloquially, people will often omit the comma entirely, to reflect pronunciation I guess. But as far as I can tell, people don’t generally pronounce a pause between the coordinating conjunction and the following independent clause, so they don’t put a comma there either.

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          I’m so glad it didn’t come off as passive-aggressive or rude. Thank you for this message. I hope you have a truly wonderful day, my friend.