They say you have to work hard and chase your dreams, but if you belong to the wealthiest Native American tribe in the world, you can sleep through life
Alternative title: Guaranteed Universal Basic Income works fantastically fucking well for Seminole Native Americans
This isn’t socialism this is capitalism the people of the Seminole tribe are essentially receiving dividends. Without the casino, a capitalist machine in the truest for, there is no money to pay the people.
I don’t think it’s capitalist, because the means of production were purchased by the tribe as a whole and are the property of the tribe. Definitely socialism.
The original commenters point was to use this as an example for why Universal Basic Income is a good idea and my point is that without capitalism this doesn’t work. You couldn’t reproduce this to cover the cost of UBI for everyone. It only works because it lives off of a very profitable industry and services a small group of people.
Actually my point wasn’t so political, haha. I was just making a joke 👍
I would like to point something out though: You said, “without capitalism this doesn’t work.” Capitalism is an orthogonal concept to socialism. It sounds like you’re confusing socialism with communism which actually is (sort of) the opposite of capitalism.
Socialism isn’t as absolute as capitalism or communism. You can have socialist policies inside of capitalism. For example, infrastructure, a military, firefighting services, medical services (e.g. the VA), etc are all socialist services that exist in the US right now.
Some things work better when they’re socialist (shared resources/common goods) and some things work better when they’re capitalist (well-regulated competition between private interests). There’s an infinite number of ways to decide whether something or how much of any given thing should be socialist VS capitalism but it mostly boils down to two things: Economics (math) and/or fairness (human nature).
You use capitalism (e.g. private ownership/sales) for goods or services that are non-essential but scarce. Most of the time this means, “stuff”: Food, consumer goods, cars, etc. but it also works for a lot of services like design work, restaurants, cleaning, repair, etc.
You use socialism (e.g. state-run organizations) for goods or services that are essential or non-scarce: A military, infrastructure, policing, firefighting, environmental monitoring/pollution controls, etc.
Examples of where capitalism has failed over and over again, often catastrophically:
- Firefighting
- Infrastructure
- Military (private militaries are always bad news!)
- Medical care (See: Current state of healthcare in the US!)
Examples of where socialism has failed over and over again, often catastrophically:
- Housing
- Food
- Consumer and industrial goods
I could actually go on on and on about what’s best managed by government and all the ways in which capitalism needs to be regulated but I don’t have that kind of time right now (hehe). If there’s one takeaway I want you to have after reading all this it’s this: Always remember that just by having a military you’re living in a socialist state. Everyone is pooling their resources (tax dollars) to maintain that military. It’s socialism. You’re a socialist!
TIL that food is not essential.
In all seriousness though, how has socialist food policies failed catastrophically? Seems like there are plenty of (albeit small) examples where it has worked.
Agreed. This has nothing to do with UBI or its goals. This is what socialism looks like in an exceptionally wealthy society.
I don’t even think UBI is practical; just take a look at inflation today to see what businesses do when they hear people have a bit of spending change.
If the government wants to guarantee that people have food and shelter, they should do it directly.
Hopefully they buy back their country and shut it down.
Yeah that’ll solve everything.
Disgusting.
Gambling ruins lives, these people are profiting off of the pain and suffering of the less fortunate.
Ironic.
So you’re against Vegas and Atlantic city as well or is it just a problem when natives are making profits off of gambling?
They said gambling is bad and you start to insinuate that they are racists. Seriously ?!?
Who are these people they’re referring to?
I’m past the point of giving Americans the benefit of the doubt. It’s a bigoted racist society to its core. After years of being proven wrong When assuming people who make comments like that are good people, I’m left with assuming the people that make ambiguous statements such as the one above are dog whistling and I’d wager that I’m right about this and you are wrong.
I’m not American you idiot. I’m Australian, a country gripped by gambling , with the highest percentage of gamblers in the world.
Secondly, these people obviously refers to this group of people who profit off of gambling.
I don’t care if it’s some indigenous group or Crown Resorts, it’s never okay.
So you’re ignorant and don’t have a clue what you’re talking about while being surrounded by degenerates and clearly being one yourself.
Fitting.
Yeah okay mate, sure thing!
You’re the sort of person to support Israel and shout out ‘racist’ at everyone who calls out their bad shit too.
Not surprisng coming from a Canadian, gonna go run another starlight tour or murder an indigenous protester?
Who the fuck would be “for” them?
Some people bankrupt casinos, these people are nation building.
Ick
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Post something interesting, be the change.
I gotchu fam fam
Let’s not be like Reddit and shoe horn that dipshit into every single possible conversation we can
Who?
hahaha that’s like the 3rd time I have done that since i joined this site. I feel like a boomer screwing up technology. I meant to reply to the dude who said this reminded him of trump bankrupting a casino.
