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Wish this death gap would get as much attention as the wage gap. I expect the world won’t give a fuck about men’s problems as usual.
I mean while it widening is concerning, men die earlier than women everywhere. At this point is it a problem or just men being more likely to do reckless stuff?
Maybe. I’m male and from personal experience we tend to do stupid stuff under the influence of the hormones that make us what we are. However, I quote the article:
The shortening lifespan of Americans has been attributed in part to so-called “deaths of despair.” The term refers to the increase in deaths from such causes as suicide, drug use disorders, and alcoholic liver disease, which are often connected with economic hardship, depression, and stress.
These are deaths attributable to society failing these people, they aren’t necessarily caused by their personal choices.
Yeah that’s what I meant by the gap widening being cause for concern.
I suspect it may at least in part be because physically demanding jobs are often male dominated, because men are on average stronger. These jobs are likely to increase your chance of dying early.
“While we know leisure-time physical activity is good for you, we found that occupational physical activity has an 18% increased risk of early mortality for men,” Coenen said. “These men are dying earlier than those who are not physically active in their occupation.”
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2018/may/14/exercise-is-good-for-you-unless-its-part-of-your-job
I also suspect this also may affect exposure to chemicals and toxins. Eg. construction and the car industry are often male dominated, which means that they are almost certainly more likely to die from exposure to abestos.
TLDR: loads of factors.
depends how the men are dying
This is not a problem everywhere, in west europe this gap is narrowing. For example the gap reduced from 6.8 years to 4.4 in the last 30 years in Switzerland.
https://www.srf.ch/wissen/gesundheit/gleiche-lebenserwartung-fuer-alle
The fact that you express a gap of 4.4 years as “not a problem” is exactly my point.
edit: Maybe you’re referring to the fact that the gap is not widening but shrinking in Switzerland, so I would agree that the gap widening is not a problem.
However, the gap existing at all (barring genetic considerations) is still a huge problem nobody is talking about.
Barring genetic considerations isn’t a minor thing. Men have higher rates of cardiovascular disease inherently, just for one factor.
I agree, which is why I explicitly factored it out.
@Mkengine @nehal3m right, so American men are to blame. Thankfully we are learning a lot about women these days. 😂🤷♂️
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fnbeh.2018.00081/full
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WOW. Super insensitive to be making this comment on 2XC. Shame on you. It’s not either or.
Insensitive? This is a men’s problem posted on a women’s sub. I’m gonna comment accordingly, go virtue signal somewhere else.
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