Edit: Jesus Christ, people. If you buy a $150 Thinkpad made by slave labor instead of a $1,200 MacBook made by slave labor, you’re still supporting a capitalist economy based on slave labor. We all do. We have no choice. The number of smug liberals in the comments saying “well I buy a cheap used laptop” or “well I buy coffee beans and make my own coffee” are completely missing the fucking point.

Don’t tell yourself your consumption is moral. All of us make unethical choices every day because there is no ethical consumption under capitalism. Accept your shame and guilt and let it drive you to do better.

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      Generally most people need a computer these days, yes.

      As for the Starbucks not my thing, but people also need sources of enjoyment and sometimes that can be from a sweet drink.

      Life isn’t about only food and water.

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        I have bought plenty of things that I don’t really need, but I don’t act like capitalism made me do it and I would die without them.

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          No one does.

          Criticism of capitalism is far beyond purchasing simple goods.

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            Did you read the same thing I did? Its saying you either participate in capitalism or die. The “participating” its referring to is a macbook and Starbucks.

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        You don’t need a Mac though, in fact in most circumstances using a Mac actively makes performing computer necessary tasks harder than just using the local library computers.

        Mac is the bougie flex of choosing to be less productive for the sake of brand clout.

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          You use a mac because of clout and a bougie flex.

          I use a mac because I get it free as a hand-me-down from work every tech refresh.

          We are not the same.

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            I’ve been in a dev environment and have literally seen nothing of the sort

            Also, wildly popular doesn’t mean wildly effective, even if that was true

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              Everywhere I’ve worked for the last 8 years has used Macs for developers. One place I was at started with Windows and people jumped at the opportunity to switch to a Mac when they got the option.

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                Macs have been standard for my software development career for more than a decade, yes.

                They have a lot of Unix stuff but are pretty standardized and widely supported.

                Everyone uses docker, which isn’t super great on Mac.

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          You can use a Mac, and that’s fine too.

          Not everyone is a Linux power user, get over yourself and your elitist computer ideology.

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            I use a Thinkpad with Windows because it’s cheaper and works better

            If I want to use Linux I set up a VM for it to use for dev and IT busnasty

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              Or use what you have.

              A Mac works just as well as windows, there is no “better”, only one’s preference.

              Seriously get over yourself, instead of attacking such a minor thing as the brand of computer being used, focus your outrage on the system that treats the world like shit.

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                See you might have had a point there if Macs weren’t literally proven to be a shittier alternative.

                Security classes don’t even teach about Maca because the only security advice worth giving to Mac users is “switch to Windows or Linux, it’s cheaper than anything that could be done to make this thing even remotely secure.”

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                  This reads like something out of the comment section for a “I’m a Mac/I’m a PC” ad 15 years ago. Things have changed since then.

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                    This is literally the most up to date security opinion on Macs at the moment, this was course material for 2021 cyber security training

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          As someone who has worked a help desk for nearly a decade now, and hates Mac’s and Apple with a general burning passion:

          Suggesting that modern windows 11 is any more usable than MacOS for a general “browse thw web and check email” user, is ridiculous.

          Furthermore, some educational programs, jobs, courses, software, may in fact mean that a person has a requirement for a Mac, even if they can’t afford the Mac. >!Though I imagine your response to this will simply be “just dont do the things that need a Mac if you want to complain about capitalism 4head”!<