• Jax
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    8 months ago

    “If all goes well in the future”

    This mentality is toxic.

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      8 months ago

      How? Trump absolutely could win the presidency again, and I don’t think coming to terms with that is a bad thing. It’s just reality.

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        Weird when someone cherrypicks their own comment. Here we go.

        If all goes well in the future … to put it softly.

        So what you’re essentially saying is that; in order for the problem with guns to be solved we need to be at an indeterminate point in the future where 1) the cops and the military no longer have fascist influences, 2) we use them to corral people who don’t want to give up their guns and kill them.

        Then you cherrypick your own comment to appear as if you’re just forward thinking by hedging your bets.

        Allow me to put it this way. You, or anyone else, that has lived through the months following Jan 6th 2021 and seriously discusses the topic of taking guns away (especially in the very fascist manner that you’re invoking) is one of three things.

        You are either an idiot, a liar, or a bot.

        I hope for you’re sake that you’re just an idiot. You can fix that.

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          8 months ago

          Trump losing was what I meant by “all going well,” and that’s the part you decided to quote and respond to. Things are “going well” when Republicans lose influence, and those are the conditions it’d take for me to vote for guns to be outlawed. You’re getting upset over your own lack of understanding lol.

          1. we use them to corral people who don’t want to give up their guns and kill them.

          Now you’re just making shit up, I can’t even charitably call that a misinterpretation.

          What I’m saying is that if guns were outlawed there would almost certainly be citizen militias fighting against it, and it wasn’t me who signed up for the responsibility of dealing with illegal use of guns. That’s the police and military.

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            If Trump losing is all you think it takes for us to be in a position to take people’s guns away peacefully you’re actually insane.

            And if it comes to it let the military and cops take the…backlash, to put it softly.

            Now you’re just making shit up, I can’t even charitably call that a misinterpretation.

            What I’m saying is that if guns were outlawed there would almost certainly be citizen militias fighting against it, and it wasn’t me who signed up for the responsibility of dealing with illegal use of guns. That’s the police and military.

            Now you’re arguing in bad faith. You know exactly what you meant, you coward.

            Edit: the literal definition of backlash - a strong and adverse reaction by a large number of people, especially to a social or political development.

            This guy acting as if the backlash won’t be violent, signs are pointing to bot my guys.

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              8 months ago

              Dealing with the backlash doesn’t involve rounding people up. You’re arguing against shit nobody is saying.

              If you wanna piss and moan over a Boogeyman of your own making, that’s your prerogative.

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                You are suggesting that the people who have repeatedly stated “I will shoot you if you try to take my guns” will not, in fact, shoot someone for trying to take their guns. You’re also suggesting that these people will not band together.

                So you’ve also demonstrated that you have no idea what a human being actually is. I think I’m right on the money.

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                  8 months ago

                  there would almost certainly be citizen militias fighting against it

                  I actually said the exact opposite in no uncertain terms.

                  Once again, you’re wrestling with a Boogeyman of your own making and shit nobody said.

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                    Let me get this straight, you think that I should accept that you actually meant this when you very clearly said that?

                    What I’m saying is that if guns were outlawed there would almost certainly be citizen militias fighting against it, and it wasn’t me who signed up for the responsibility of dealing with illegal use of guns. That’s the police and military.

                    You do understand this isn’t an explanation that is acceptable right? Conservatives, supporters of Trump, are not the only people who will be fighting back in “militias” as you’re saying. Those are acceptable casualties for the totally not fascists, right?

                    Fucks sake, so unaware.