Good point. My statement was a bit reductive, I just worry when it comes to creating the kind of blanket ban on stuff that people can work around if they’re powerful enough.
This is not true in France. Politicians that have proven fraud are arrested and charged. In France we have Sarkozy, Cahuzac, Fillon that were all charged with crimes.
They were president, minister and presidential candidate respectively. I’d be surprised if it was different in the USA. I’m seeing that trump is also being charged, the system seems to be working.
Consumers payments deserves their privacy, but business ones needs absolutely to be fully traceable.
Could it be possible to use two different yet identical interchangeable currencies, one traceable for making business only, and one untraceable for consumers retail transactions?
loosely i.e.
wages are Business currency converted and paid in Consumer currency, accounted for the amount paid to the consumer in his name
end-users/home/consumer purchases are made from consumers anonymously in Consumer currency, and this is converted converted into Business currency upon transaction, keeping only the consumer name anonymous but tracing everything else
B2B transactions are made in Business currency, fully traceable
Not necessarily, it’s only traceable if you generate receipts on both sides. I don’t know about EU law, but in the US, you only need to report cash deposits if they’re over $10k, and if your deposits are always over $10k (e.g. you’re a big retailer or something), another $10k here and there won’t raise any eyebrows.
Cash is still king when it comes to corruption since it’s easy to exchange it for favors w/o generating a receipt at all.
Can’t say in terms of proportion cash vs. non-cash but one might want to watch the Qatargate recent documentary on Arte which shows that somehow a 700k EUR luggage was found in the house of a MEP. Piles of cash sound outdated yet clearly still exist nowadays.
True that. The system that we have is the product of many painful lessons, taught to us by global crises and crimes. People, who oppose this system, should stop reading nonsense on reddit and 4chan, and start with books and lectures from educated economists.
I order to participate in the fight again corruption, would you mind sharing with us the list of payement you made this week? Please use the following format :
[date], [time] - [nature of the payement] - [transaction amount] - [beneficiary]
One transaction per ligne, in a chronological order.
That’s literally what businesses do, it’s called accounting. And if you read the underlying article and/or law, you’d see that this is targeting businesses, not individuals.
There’s a special status for some people in Russia, it’s called Foreign Agent, and I believe they need to write down everything they spend money on this way
sorry but banning anonymous payments is pretty good for fighting corruption…
Corrupt politicians can simply ignore the law. If they didn’t ignore it, they wouldn’t be very corrupt.
Yes, but now there’s an explicit law over which they can be prosecuted
Good point. My statement was a bit reductive, I just worry when it comes to creating the kind of blanket ban on stuff that people can work around if they’re powerful enough.
This is not true in France. Politicians that have proven fraud are arrested and charged. In France we have Sarkozy, Cahuzac, Fillon that were all charged with crimes.
They were president, minister and presidential candidate respectively. I’d be surprised if it was different in the USA. I’m seeing that trump is also being charged, the system seems to be working.
Consumers payments deserves their privacy, but business ones needs absolutely to be fully traceable.
Could it be possible to use two different yet identical interchangeable currencies, one traceable for making business only, and one untraceable for consumers retail transactions?
loosely i.e.
… I don’t know there is probably still a loophole
I am pretty sure the lesser part of corruption is cash. Probably more stuff like exchanging a lucrative contract for political support.
They are not stupid. Afterall cash needs to be explained, a good contract gives you cash and the explanation.
Cash is mostly traceable at point of contact unless you keep it in a money bin and don’t spend it, though…
Not necessarily, it’s only traceable if you generate receipts on both sides. I don’t know about EU law, but in the US, you only need to report cash deposits if they’re over $10k, and if your deposits are always over $10k (e.g. you’re a big retailer or something), another $10k here and there won’t raise any eyebrows.
Cash is still king when it comes to corruption since it’s easy to exchange it for favors w/o generating a receipt at all.
Can’t say in terms of proportion cash vs. non-cash but one might want to watch the Qatargate recent documentary on Arte which shows that somehow a 700k EUR luggage was found in the house of a MEP. Piles of cash sound outdated yet clearly still exist nowadays.
Geoblocked
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I’ll leave that for few days.
Thanks!
The 500€ bill was removed from circulation because it was used almost exclusively for corruption and illegal trade.
But fighting corruption is not a goal I’m ready to pay any prize for.
Russia almost did it. Now it’s finally free of corruption!
Haha , nope. It’s way more corrupt than before. You can even purchase on the dark web a list of items your person of interest bought this year.
so ban it only for government (people and assets) related transactions
True that. The system that we have is the product of many painful lessons, taught to us by global crises and crimes. People, who oppose this system, should stop reading nonsense on reddit and 4chan, and start with books and lectures from educated economists.
Putin’s corruption works fine without anonymous payments
i mean does it really? russia is heavily sanctioned to the rest of the western world.
Putin is not Russia
I order to participate in the fight again corruption, would you mind sharing with us the list of payement you made this week? Please use the following format :
[date], [time] - [nature of the payement] - [transaction amount] - [beneficiary]
One transaction per ligne, in a chronological order.
That’s literally what businesses do, it’s called accounting. And if you read the underlying article and/or law, you’d see that this is targeting businesses, not individuals.
You’ve just invented accounting haha
There’s a special status for some people in Russia, it’s called Foreign Agent, and I believe they need to write down everything they spend money on this way
i mean banks and law enforcement can already get that information