Senator Tim Kaine, a former vice-presidential nominee and leading foreign policy voice in the Democratic party, has said Joe Biden now understands that Benjamin Netanyahu “played” him during the early months of the war in Gaza but “that ain’t going to happen any more”.
In an interview with the Guardian on Tuesday, Kaine accused the prime minister of making Israel “dramatically less safe” and hurting its longstanding relationship with the US, and said the US president had come to realise the limits of his influence.
The Democratic senator for Virginia is best known nationally as Hillary Clinton’s running mate in the 2016 presidential election, a race they lost to Republicans Donald Trump and Mike Pence. The Biden ally is a member of the Senate foreign relations and armed services committees.
Are you seriously insinuating that the US is not a horrifically dominant military power compared to Iran? That US military threats are not taken seriously by despotic powers? Especially to non nuclear powers like Iran?
I never said war would be easy for Iran. I’m saying to would be incredibly difficult for the US. Likely the most difficult war since Vietnam. This is a wildly known fact.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_Challenge_2002
And again in 2012 https://www.brookings.edu/articles/simulated-war-between-u-s-iran-has-grisly-end/
Iran also probably still holds a grudge for the US (and indirectly Israel) backing Saddam during the Iraq-Iran war, I’m sure that they won’t think too too long about entering a war if the US’ saber rattling turns into action.
You realize youre linking 12 and 22 year old “war games,” right? That military tech and tactics have not been static for decades?
One of those war games is 7 years older than smartphones and wasent even specifically about Iran. The other is a few dozen unamed “experts” who played fancy Risk at each other at a private think tank 12 years ago?
Those are your sources that the modern US military is not a threat to Iran?
Clearly you know better than the military analysts of the US army themselves. I’m so sorry I shouldn’t have doubted an expert like you.
You’re delusional.
A 22 yr old war game is your only auditable source for the comparable military power of 2 nation states, and youre sure it’s still accurate today?
A wargame that took place right after Y2K, when people were talking about this new thing called the “information superhighway,” before social media existed, when the flip phone was king and a smart phone wasn’t even an idea, and yet its your gospel about modern military might.
Sure thing.
It’s convenient that you ignored that the experience was repeated ten years later with similar results isn’t it.
https://thehill.com/opinion/congress-blog/4339670-despite-washingtons-confidence-us-war-with-iran-would-be-disastrous/
Up to you to provide sources that contradict this. So far all you have is hot air.
Hey look at that, an actual source that isn’t 10 or 20 years old. Good job mate. It’s written by the Cato institute, a wildly biased right wing think tank funded by the Koch brothers, but it seems to have good numbers.
Yeah, Iran looks like a real motherfucker to conquer, but we sure as shit can do immense amounts of damage without that being the goal. That’s enough to give Iran pause, which is why Biden’s threats and rhetoric is effective.
I’m well aware that Cato is a right wing think tank… Maybe when the war hawks tell you that you would occure incredible losses in a war and you shouldn’t do it, it’s time to to listen to them.
Again, you have provided not a single source to counter my claims. Nothing but hot air. Cope harder, but I sure as shit won’t get drafted.
Im not disagreeing with the claims that iran would be a difficult nation to conquer. I’m glad you properly sourced it eventually.
What I’m disagreeing with is your supposition that Biden’s threats to Iran are mundane or ignorable. They are not, hence the effectiveness of them as a kudgel to prevent a wider war in the middle east.
I wonder if it is in the US’ best interests being dragged on a war very much like the one waged on Afghanistan… a costly affair that ended up worsening the problem in the region
Sorry bro, hypersonic missiles from Iran will blow the shit out of Hamptons estates, regardless of how much money we pour into the military industrial complex. We need to be de-escalating in the region, and stop Israel from further provocations.
Also, threatening nuclear action after Israel was clearly the embassy bombing aggressor? You aren’t serious.