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So, Microsoft is silently installing Copilot onto Windows Server 2022 systems and this is a disaster.
How can you push a tool that siphons data to a third party onto a security-critical system?
What privileges does it have upon install? Who thought this is a good idea? And most importantly, who needs this?
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The only self hosted NVR software I could find for my parents that has an accompanying phone app doesn’t have a Linux version: it’s Windows-only and the desktop GUI is required to set it up
I personally use Motion and Home Assistant at home, but I wouldn’t set up the same for other non-techies, IMO no point making yourself tech support where it isn’t necessary
Yepp I know - my preference leaned towards the server edition as it doesn’t include the unnecessary UWP apps installed with Win10/11, and has a much lighter footprint in comparison, resulting in less resource usage overall.
If these were Windows 7 or Windows XP days, a professional edition install would have sufficed for me tbh… but with all the Metro UI and additional telemetry in Windows editions after 8, it doesn’t seem worth the hassle.
When I need to log in and fix something now I really wouldn’t want to stare at a “please wait, we’re upgrading your apps” because some UWP update occured, or have the telemetry service gobble up idle CPU
It doesn’t contain UWP apps and stays on a stable version for years like Server OSs.
It’s like $130 for an upgrade license for it, or you can just run it without a license and the only downside is the watermark (that you can easily remove).
I have Server 2022 with a GUI installed on my laptop because it lets me use all the server features, play Windows games that use DRM and not spend time messing around with getting linux to run on a laptop. I have Linux on the laptop, but running inside VMs.
I still don’t want copilot installed. I can confirm it is installed on my Windows Server 2022 laptop. I don’t see any entry points on the desktop or start menu. I haven’t checked Edge yet.
I wonder if copilot is released to all update channels or if it is only on a subset?
Why are people installing Server 2022 with a GUI even?
This seems like a case of “people using Windows Server as a desktop get desktop features in an update”. Yawn.
There are server apps that require Windows with the DE.
There are too many windows server apps that require a DE
I’d say a good number of them
Because not all people use cli for everything.
Why not? It’s always convenient to have if you need to quickly fix or troubleshoot something.
But yes generally servers aren’t accessed graphically.
The only self hosted NVR software I could find for my parents that has an accompanying phone app doesn’t have a Linux version: it’s Windows-only and the desktop GUI is required to set it up
I personally use Motion and Home Assistant at home, but I wouldn’t set up the same for other non-techies, IMO no point making yourself tech support where it isn’t necessary
You don’t need Windows Server for that. Windows 10/11 would serve that need.
Yepp I know - my preference leaned towards the server edition as it doesn’t include the unnecessary UWP apps installed with Win10/11, and has a much lighter footprint in comparison, resulting in less resource usage overall.
If these were Windows 7 or Windows XP days, a professional edition install would have sufficed for me tbh… but with all the Metro UI and additional telemetry in Windows editions after 8, it doesn’t seem worth the hassle.
When I need to log in and fix something now I really wouldn’t want to stare at a “please wait, we’re upgrading your apps” because some UWP update occured, or have the telemetry service gobble up idle CPU
Look into the LTSC version on Win10.
It doesn’t contain UWP apps and stays on a stable version for years like Server OSs.
It’s like $130 for an upgrade license for it, or you can just run it without a license and the only downside is the watermark (that you can easily remove).
Why wouldn’t you install it with a GUI? If you want a normal server use Linux.
Because techs I work with are used to a gui, so it’s either get bad help I can direct or no help. And I don’t want to do everything myself.
I have Server 2022 with a GUI installed on my laptop because it lets me use all the server features, play Windows games that use DRM and not spend time messing around with getting linux to run on a laptop. I have Linux on the laptop, but running inside VMs.
I still don’t want copilot installed. I can confirm it is installed on my Windows Server 2022 laptop. I don’t see any entry points on the desktop or start menu. I haven’t checked Edge yet.
I wonder if copilot is released to all update channels or if it is only on a subset?