It doesn’t matter who’s faster, what matters is if the car in front is actively passing. If there’s a big enough gap that the car in front can merge over without having to slam on their brakes to match the slower flow, then yes, they should move over. But if there isn’t, then I guess you need to wait until there is.
The rule should be codified and enforced as something like: stay right except to pass, and passing on the right is illegal. That’s simple. If there’s room to your right, regardless of traffic behind you, you should move right. It doesn’t matter what speed you’re going, if there’s room, move right. The only exception here is on highways with more than two lanes, in which case it’s totally fine to leave the right lane open for people exiting and entering the highway. Other than that, stay right. And if someone else isn’t following that law, call traffic enforcement and don’t pass on the right.
In another way of speaking, yes. And, it is the law in most places that at least the chicken heads in this thread don’t want to recognize. Further proof that drivers licensing should be farrrr more stringent and difficult to obtain. 🤦🏼♂️
Licensing is rarely the issue, it’s that people develop bad habits. I’m in favor of relicensing every 10 years or so. Not an open book written test, but an actual driving test. That should also help catch the elderly who really shouldn’t be driving.
But the real solution is to build out mass transit and enforce the laws we have. A combination of fewer drivers and correcting dangerous driving behaviors should improve traffic and safety.
I don’t entirely disagree with you, per se, though repurcussions for unlicensed/under-licensed are a joke in most US states and the downvote-happy cowards here are exactly the same sort to declare loudly in their own minds that their own shit habits are totally rational and in the best interests of everyone else on the road — contrary to all logic.
Bottom line, if you aren’t piloting your vehicle with respect for its lethal potential and the responsibility to not be a gawdamn obstacle, you’re a fucking clown that shouldn’t be behind the wheel. Pour on the pointless downvotes, redditors; your silence says everything.
Insinuating that traffic is caused by the size of cars is like saying blood cells cause heart attacks. Shit drivers contribute to traffic conditions more than anyone here seems willing to recognize, and being a self-important fuckstick in the passing lane trying to make everyone else behave like you want is directly causing traffic.
Bottom line: if you’re not the fastest vehicle in the far right lane, get the fuck over.
Didn’t even get me started on entrance ramps or blinkers or stopping at non-existent stop signs. Those are also related to how far one’s head is up one’s own ass, but I’ve better things to do here than shake my young guy stick at a blithe population beset with systemic mental health issues. 🤷🏼♂️
It’s the density of people on roads that’s an issue. When you add more lanes, you get more conflict, which also reduces traffic flow. It’s an inefficient way to move a lot of people.
And no, someone driving 65 in a 70 or whatever isn’t causing traffic directly, but they are contributing to road rage, which does cause traffic. Traffic is caused by conflict, which increases the more lanes and cars you have on a roadway. Reducing the density of cars on roads reduces conflict, thus traffic.
Teaching people to drive better will have limited impact. The better change is to make more efficient ways to move people so there’s less conflict.
It seems you’re conflating terms, friend. Congestion is not caused by road rage, but the impaired attention and decision making that the latter leads to certainly contributes to inefficient traffic conditions (ie. congestion), just like with self-absorbed and unskilled drivers. And, contrary to your feelings on the matter, slowing the flow of traffic behind you by failing to move with it at the speed your chosen lane is indicating directly contributes to congestion further behind you for the hundreds of others that couldn’t give a flying fuck about your (editorial) personal crusade to save the world, one villainous speeder at a time. Which, btw, is selfish AF and infantile. 🤷🏼♂️
But it is. If one person needs to slam on their brakes, that causes a ripple effect all the way down, which results in stop and go traffic. Road rage tends to cause people to slam on their brakes, thus road rage can cause congestion.
slowing the flow of traffic behind you by failing to move
That doesn’t really impact congestion though, unless it leads to something that causes people to slam on their brakes. Going 65 instead of 75 isn’t congestion.
selfish
Oh I absolutely agree that not moving over is selfish, which is why I always move over when the lane next to me is open. I also move over when traffic to my right is traveling about the same speed as me and there are cars behind me.
But my point is that cars camping in the left-most lane are annoying, but they aren’t causing congestion themselves. Passing on the right absolutely can cause congestion because it is likely to cause someone else to slam on their brakes, which dominoes into stop and go traffic.
It doesn’t matter who’s faster, what matters is if the car in front is actively passing. If there’s a big enough gap that the car in front can merge over without having to slam on their brakes to match the slower flow, then yes, they should move over. But if there isn’t, then I guess you need to wait until there is.
The rule should be codified and enforced as something like: stay right except to pass, and passing on the right is illegal. That’s simple. If there’s room to your right, regardless of traffic behind you, you should move right. It doesn’t matter what speed you’re going, if there’s room, move right. The only exception here is on highways with more than two lanes, in which case it’s totally fine to leave the right lane open for people exiting and entering the highway. Other than that, stay right. And if someone else isn’t following that law, call traffic enforcement and don’t pass on the right.
In another way of speaking, yes. And, it is the law in most places that at least the chicken heads in this thread don’t want to recognize. Further proof that drivers licensing should be farrrr more stringent and difficult to obtain. 🤦🏼♂️
Licensing is rarely the issue, it’s that people develop bad habits. I’m in favor of relicensing every 10 years or so. Not an open book written test, but an actual driving test. That should also help catch the elderly who really shouldn’t be driving.
But the real solution is to build out mass transit and enforce the laws we have. A combination of fewer drivers and correcting dangerous driving behaviors should improve traffic and safety.
I don’t entirely disagree with you, per se, though repurcussions for unlicensed/under-licensed are a joke in most US states and the downvote-happy cowards here are exactly the same sort to declare loudly in their own minds that their own shit habits are totally rational and in the best interests of everyone else on the road — contrary to all logic.
Bottom line, if you aren’t piloting your vehicle with respect for its lethal potential and the responsibility to not be a gawdamn obstacle, you’re a fucking clown that shouldn’t be behind the wheel. Pour on the pointless downvotes, redditors; your silence says everything.
Yeah, it’s just like people complaining about traffic when their car takes up as much space as everyone else.
The problem is two fold:
The first is the bigger issue, but the second shouldn’t be discounted.
Insinuating that traffic is caused by the size of cars is like saying blood cells cause heart attacks. Shit drivers contribute to traffic conditions more than anyone here seems willing to recognize, and being a self-important fuckstick in the passing lane trying to make everyone else behave like you want is directly causing traffic.
Bottom line: if you’re not the fastest vehicle in the far right lane, get the fuck over.
Didn’t even get me started on entrance ramps or blinkers or stopping at non-existent stop signs. Those are also related to how far one’s head is up one’s own ass, but I’ve better things to do here than shake my young guy stick at a blithe population beset with systemic mental health issues. 🤷🏼♂️
It’s the density of people on roads that’s an issue. When you add more lanes, you get more conflict, which also reduces traffic flow. It’s an inefficient way to move a lot of people.
And no, someone driving 65 in a 70 or whatever isn’t causing traffic directly, but they are contributing to road rage, which does cause traffic. Traffic is caused by conflict, which increases the more lanes and cars you have on a roadway. Reducing the density of cars on roads reduces conflict, thus traffic.
Teaching people to drive better will have limited impact. The better change is to make more efficient ways to move people so there’s less conflict.
It seems you’re conflating terms, friend. Congestion is not caused by road rage, but the impaired attention and decision making that the latter leads to certainly contributes to inefficient traffic conditions (ie. congestion), just like with self-absorbed and unskilled drivers. And, contrary to your feelings on the matter, slowing the flow of traffic behind you by failing to move with it at the speed your chosen lane is indicating directly contributes to congestion further behind you for the hundreds of others that couldn’t give a flying fuck about your (editorial) personal crusade to save the world, one villainous speeder at a time. Which, btw, is selfish AF and infantile. 🤷🏼♂️
But it is. If one person needs to slam on their brakes, that causes a ripple effect all the way down, which results in stop and go traffic. Road rage tends to cause people to slam on their brakes, thus road rage can cause congestion.
That doesn’t really impact congestion though, unless it leads to something that causes people to slam on their brakes. Going 65 instead of 75 isn’t congestion.
Oh I absolutely agree that not moving over is selfish, which is why I always move over when the lane next to me is open. I also move over when traffic to my right is traveling about the same speed as me and there are cars behind me.
But my point is that cars camping in the left-most lane are annoying, but they aren’t causing congestion themselves. Passing on the right absolutely can cause congestion because it is likely to cause someone else to slam on their brakes, which dominoes into stop and go traffic.