“That man doesn’t deserve to have been the commander in chief for my son, my uncle,” he said, referring to Beau Biden and Ambrose Finnegan, who both served in the military.

“That man doesn’t deserve to have been the commander in chief for my son, my uncle,” he said, referring to Beau Biden and Ambrose Finnegan, who both served in the military

President Joe Biden choked up Wednesday talking about the military service of his family members and former President Donald Trump’s disparaging remarks about service members.

“They asked [Trump] to go visit American gravesites. He said, ‘No.’ He wouldn’t do it. Because they were all ‘suckers’ and ‘losers,’” Biden told a crowd of union workers. “I’m not making that up. The staff who were with him acknowledge it today. Suckers and losers.”

He paused for a moment and added, “That man doesn’t deserve to have been the commander in chief for my son, my uncle.” Beau Biden and Ambrose Finnegan both served in the military before Trump took office.

Biden’s comments referred to Trump’s 2018 trip to Paris for the centennial of the end of World War I, when he declined to visit the Aisne-Marne American Cemetery and reportedly called Marines who died at Belleau Wood “suckers” and fallen soldiers at the U.S. cemetery “losers.”

  • DeceptichumEnglish
    18131·
    7 months ago

    Over 1,000,000 Iraqis died in the war Bidens son valiantly slaughtered in.

    Why do we respect state sanctioned murderers lives yet disregard the victims of imperialism?

      • jordanlund@lemmy.worldM
        7·
        7 months ago

        Instigating trolling, repeatedly, isn’t a good look. Banned for 24 bours, content removed. Do better.

      • DeceptichumEnglish
        420·
        7 months ago

        You’re right.

        Soldiers are the good guys ™, the invasion of Iraq was just, and Guantánamo Bay was an act of patriotic duty.

        Please, tell me why anyone should respect these “just following orders” soldiers?

        Why do we get to wash away the crimes they committed to honour and respect them?

        Should we show respect for the dead Nazi or Japanese soldiers during WW2?

        Do you people all have short term memories or are you deliberately forgetting the war crimes and how needlessly fucked up the US led invasion of Iraq was?

    • GBU_28@lemm.eeEnglish
      211·
      7 months ago

      You’re absolutely right in general.

      But:

      1. He’s the president of the US. Of course he’d focus on US life/death
      2. He’s discussing his son/uncle, which is a personal connection.

      Humans are generally very good at personally relating to things, but poor at global relations

        • cooljacob204@kbin.social
          234·
          7 months ago

          Because it’s not that high. 34,144–71,544k military casualties and 103,160–113,728k civilian deaths during the entire 8 years 8 months.

          That includes fighting extremists like ISIS and deaths caused by Iraqi security forces (post Saddam) who also have the most casualties on the coalition side.

          Many more died due to extremists groups like ISIS outside of the war. If count that then maybe you start to creep up. But I don’t think it makes any sense to blame the US for what ISIS and other groups did.

          To add on to that the invasion phase itself caused 30k military deaths and 7k civilians.

              • TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
                525·
                7 months ago

                Sure, but its your claim. Thanks.

                So from your own sources:

                Lancet survey** (March 2003 – July 2006): 654,965 (95% CI: 392,979–942,636)

                Iraq Family Health Survey*** (March 2003 – July 2006): 151,000 (95% CI: 104,000–223,000)

                Opinion Research Business**: (March 2003 – August 2007): 1,033,000 (95% CI: 946,258–1,120,000)

                PLOS Medicine Study**: (March 2003 – June 2011): 405,000 (60% violent) (95% CI: 48,000–751,000)

                So keep in mind those numbers don’t include the entire time frame of the war. Two stars for violent deaths, three stars for excess deaths.

                So very very easily well over a million deaths due to the US invasion, considering those studies don’t even consider the entire time frame of the war, since the US didn’t withdrawal until 2021, and excess deaths almost assuredly increased in rate over the period of occupation.