Calling it logic is insincere. They’re just shuffling cards.
Zionists also make the problem clearer by denouncing assumptions about Jews supporting Israel… when it suits them. Anyone suggesting American Jews have some automatic loyalty to Israel is being prejudiced at best and outright bigoted at worst. You can watch people insist on this, immediately after treating criticism of the Israeli government as a personal attack. The contradiction is so much worse than hypocrisy. People in this mode do not care what is true. They reject the concept. It’s reality as a team sport.
They are performing loyalty in a way that resembles argument.
Recognizing this in action changes how the conversation can go. You can keep making sincere efforts they’ll ignore as motivated plausible nonsense… like they’re doing. Or you can explain to them that it’s what they’re doing, and tell them, possibly for the first time, there are other options. You can tell them some folks mean things when they say words. This is genuinely news to people.
The clearest example might be conservatives scoffing at condemnation of their own hypocrisy… because they think us reminding them of their own arguments, is us adopting their arguments. I’ve had people express, in shockingly plain English, that they don’t know the difference. And why would they? It’s not like they believed it, when they said it.
Calling it logic is insincere. They’re just shuffling cards.
Zionists also make the problem clearer by denouncing assumptions about Jews supporting Israel… when it suits them. Anyone suggesting American Jews have some automatic loyalty to Israel is being prejudiced at best and outright bigoted at worst. You can watch people insist on this, immediately after treating criticism of the Israeli government as a personal attack. The contradiction is so much worse than hypocrisy. People in this mode do not care what is true. They reject the concept. It’s reality as a team sport.
They are performing loyalty in a way that resembles argument.
Recognizing this in action changes how the conversation can go. You can keep making sincere efforts they’ll ignore as motivated plausible nonsense… like they’re doing. Or you can explain to them that it’s what they’re doing, and tell them, possibly for the first time, there are other options. You can tell them some folks mean things when they say words. This is genuinely news to people.
The clearest example might be conservatives scoffing at condemnation of their own hypocrisy… because they think us reminding them of their own arguments, is us adopting their arguments. I’ve had people express, in shockingly plain English, that they don’t know the difference. And why would they? It’s not like they believed it, when they said it.