The tool is nearly ready to be released, Zuckerman told Ars, but the University of Massachusetts Amherst associate professor is afraid that Facebook owner Meta might threaten legal action if he goes ahead. And his fears appear well-founded. In 2021, Meta sent a cease-and-desist letter to the creator of the original Unfollow Everything, Louis Barclay, leading that developer to shut down his tool after thousands of Facebook users had eagerly downloaded it.
Zuckerman is suing Meta, asking a US district court in California to invalidate Meta’s past arguments against developers like Barclay and rule that Meta would have no grounds to sue if he released his tool.
Meta (or similar) probably is already running one of our major instances. We don’t know who actually owns all of them.
Probably but thats not the issue. The issue is mass influx of badly moderated and likely, eventually ad ridden content. They can totally read all my stuff. I dont want them to push their shit on my server and I dont want them to gain power over my feed. What would happen if I defederated lemmy.world tomorrow? Exactly, my feed would be 75% shorter because most stuff is on there. With meta, world is suddenly 10% of the feed and meta is 90.
Why not both being an issue? Why wouldn’t they say who they really are if they’re a major corporation.
Because thats how the world works. People lie and studies shown that big corporations act like psychopaths. You will never get rid of this thing. Also, everyone in the whole world can just read your content off every fediverse server your server federates to, manually or through scraping. It literally is a nonissue if they made an undercover instance because they can read it everywhere.
But that is also the idea. If your message can be gotten everywhere, nobody can artificially ransom them for money (looking at you, reddit, stack overflow, facebook, twitter, etc).
This fact is rarely discussed but a major factor why the fediverse helps with democratization of the internet. Free information.
I’m pro-fediverse, that’s why I think it’s just as bad. There is one instance in particular, that has the vast majority of Lemmy, that is controlling the narrative for most Lemmy users and it probably will only get worse. I was banned from that one because an admin was curating what I said. Now I don’t really have a voice over there because I’m not savvy enough to do an alt that they couldn’t tell. So here I am, not being able to let people know that I’ve noticed them being curated and they’ve also banned my community in the biggest instance (that one I like).
Absolutely, I want to keep it that way. I think corporations taking over one of the big instances would be subtle and will have terrible consequences for the fediverse. People sign up for it, not knowing, and then get curated just like on Facebook.
We probably mean the same but look at it through different lenses. I also want the fediverse to succeed. Therefore I host 4 fediverse instances.
But you have to understand that keeping anyone (especially tech companies with tons of knowledge) from reading this stuff is 1. impossible and 2. against the freedom idea of the fediverse.
That would be world
And why is that a problem? You cant keep people in **** from being shot either and we‘re not making a fuss about it from what I can tell. I suggest we focus on the things we can while we can. Otherwise we wont get the stuff done that we actually have the power and influence for.
Again, something you cant influence. I defederated meta and will defederate anyone else who pushes ads or other shit content. If other admins do the same we will automatically separate from shit content.
Be the change you want to see and either make your own instance or donate to the one you’re on. Also, tell others the same thing and we will get to a better place guaranteed. The system of the fediverse is already great because its democratic. Our only enemy is i fighting.
I think we’re on the same page, I don’t care if they read my feed in the slightest. Reddit made a shit ton off of me and my friends and I didn’t care about that either. They were providing a free service and I used it, make money. My issue with reddit was/is, they think they’re the product and treat everyone as such.
Yep, that’s one of the things I’m doing right here by getting the word out for everyone to spread out through the Fediverse. People were saying that when I joined, but I didn’t understand what the ramifications were. Of course, I can’t tell anyone on the largest instance, lol.