• Admiral Patrick
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    1 month ago

    To call something a lie, the media outlet has to know, 100%, that the speaker knows it’s a lie. It’s difficult to impossible to meet that threshold in pretty much all cases.

    A false statement is an untruth — a lie that could have resulted from an honest mistake, poor fact-checking, negligence, or just plain bad luck / stupidity.

    People may say something that is known to them as the truth, but is not necessarily the objective truth as known by others. In that case, they would be making unwitting false claims. i.e. “it’s not a lie if you believe it”

    Basically it comes down to liability. If a media outlet directly calls something someone says a lie, they’re going to get sued.
    And Cheeto is a walking SLAAP lawsuit.

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      51 month ago

      He won’t sue. If he sues they can subpoena and reveal that in private communications he admits the truth.

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        1 month ago

        I mean, a smart person (or a dumb person who at least listened to the advice of their lawyers) wouldn’t sue in that scenario. But this is Trump we’re talking about, lol, so I’m less convinced.

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      11 month ago

      I don’t know what the law says, but it seems to me you can tell a lie without lying. If I hear a lie and then repeat it, transitive property, baby.