• @Ashyr
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    5418 days ago

    What’s the story? What’s wrong with tf2

    • @[email protected]
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      9618 days ago

      Bots and cheaters have completely overtaken it and the small community that still plays has finally had enough

      • CALIGVLA
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        6018 days ago

        the small community that still plays

        70k+ people playing daily

        You and I have very different concepts of small.

        • Skua
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          5918 days ago

          Surely that 70k would include the bots though? Like of it’s 69,500 bots and 500 people then it seems fair to call it a small community

          • @[email protected]
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            1818 days ago

            Na there is a lot of real players still playing.

            Aus for example community servers get full quick, there is a pro league going with multiple divisions, and then those who try brave casual servers as well.

            Aus alone would have over 500+ players regularly playing daily.

          • @Croquette
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            2918 days ago

            Not bad for a 20 years old game.

          • @[email protected]
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            -3218 days ago

            How is Valve pumping up the concurrent player count not a bigger news story? That is like the metric for calculating popularity of a game and Valve is openly fudging the numbers without anyone caring. I feel like I’m taking crazy pills.

    • Blaster M
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      3818 days ago

      Botters have gone from aimbotting and afk item farming to basically crowding public lobbies with their bots, then using ai to voice spam slurs and “confessions of illegal activities” in the voice of people trying to bring attention to the bot problem. The botters have also done both doxxing (impersonating said people and spamming their personal info as well as using ai voice chat spam to get people to do vigilante action against innocent people), swatting (see previous), as well as using their majority in a server to kick anyone that tries to combat them.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNxjTciIwig

      • @Ashyr
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        918 days ago

        That’s so grim.

      • @[email protected]
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        818 days ago

        Valve just closing their eyes and ears like they do to all other shitty things being done by players on their platform.

          • @[email protected]
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            418 days ago

            What kind of dumb answer is that? So its either accept the way it is or shut the game down? There is no way to fix a thing? Can’t work on anti cheat, better moderation, actual consequences for the assholes doing this, etc?

            What is it with so many people crawling so deep up Valve’s ass. They are not some holy company that loves you deeply.

            And I’m not just talking about the tf2 situation. Valve turns a blind eye to a lot of things on their platform such as hate speech and groups that purely exist to harass people.

            • @[email protected]
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              -518 days ago

              its either accept the way it is or shut the game down?

              What kind of dumb question is this? No, I asked you for a solution.

              Can’t work on anti cheat

              Everyone’s working on it. It doesn’t work.

              better moderation

              How so?

              actual consequences for the assholes doing this, etc?

              Valve hands out bans like crazy but they spin up 100 new bots for every ban.

              What is it with so many people crawling so deep up Valve’s ass

              What is it with so many people asking stupid questions?

              • @[email protected]
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                117 days ago

                Why do i need to come up with a solution? I don’t work at Valve. We’re asking Valve to come up with a solution and do something. Its their game. Its their code.

                And to pretend Valve is trying hard is very ignorant… the only thing they try hard is adding more hats and making sure the marketplace works.

                • @[email protected]
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                  -117 days ago

                  Why do i need to come up with a solution?

                  Because you’re the one saying there is a solution when there isn’t.