• @sugar_in_your_tea
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    12 months ago

    you accept that there’s not going to be vaccine checking at every bar, hotel, movie theater, museum, etc because that’s impractical. Also a privacy nightmare.

    Yes, it’s impractical, but I don’t think it’s necessarily a privacy nightmare. It would be easy to build an app that merely confirms whether a given vaccine has been taken (esp useful in a pandemic), without revealing any other info. The issue is getting doctors and stores to use it. But if there’s enough demand, it would happen.

    The more likely scenario is what we already have: core services like public schools would require vax info when you register.

    if you’re not making people get vaccinated then you’re just asking for an outbreak.

    How so? It’s exactly what we’re doing now, and outbreaks are rare and very localized. It turns out the quiet majority finds value in vaccines.

    What we should be working on is increasing access to vaccines. It’s currently pretty good, but it can be expensive depending on your insurance (or lack thereof). If we want more people vaxxed, the easiest way to do that is to make it free and available at any pharmacy, just like with COVID.

    Prisoners are not typically high on the list of people whose rights and dignity are respected

    And that should absolutely change. I hate pretty much everything about our criminal justice system, and one of my big ticket items is giving prisoners more choice in their incarceration.

    I obviously don’t have any power to enact any of the changes I’ve discussed, but if I could pick one, it would be prisons. I think we should:

    1. Have more private prisons, and compensate based on recidivism rate, not beds; lower recidivism means more money
    2. Give prisoners the option of where to go; so operate it kind of like charter schools and allow prisoners to apply; certain prisons would specialize in different types of rehab
    3. Legalize recreational drugs and eliminate any prison time and scrub records to drastically cut pointless incarcerations

    That should transition prisons to specialized rehab centers instead of just places to keep people, which should result in lower overall prison population. Traditional prisons would exist for the truly dangerous criminals, but others would have options.

    unless you think people should be able to shit everywhere they want and set off dirty bombs for fun in urban areas.

    Your rights end where mine begin. Those two you mentioned directly impact others and thus aren’t moral.

    The small possibility of me dying in front of you does not, by itself, cause you any harm. The possibility of trauma is not itself a violation of your rights. I could understand me slaughtering animals in public being an issue, but the mere chance of me getting seriously or fatally injured in public isn’t one.

    I accept that you likely have a fundamental, perhaps visceral, rejection of my worldview.

    And you’d be right, both on this point and on the point of us agreeing on a ton of things. However, those aren’t what we’re talking about, but I’ll list a few just in case you’re curious:

    • UBI/NIT - employer individuals to leave bad employers and either find a better one or make their own work; many don’t because they’re too worried about putting food on the table
    • end the death penalty - I believe every individual is redeemable, so the death penalty is strictly immoral
    • fully remove oversight for abortion in the first trimester on privacy grounds - this is the time women have miscarriages, and it’s nobody’s business whether she had a miscarriage or an abortion; beyond that, women are immune from prosecution for seeking or attempting an abortion, the only possible criminals are doctors providing illegal care (if states choose to ban it)
    • completely eliminate qualified immunity - cops should be held to the same standards as private citizens

    All of this comes from a place of putting individual rights first, but it’s entirely reasonable to arrive there by other means.

    Anyway, I hope you have a fantastic day. I’m sure we both share similar frustrations, we just have different limits on what we’re willing to do to address them.