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    Because even the people who are the most negatively affected by wealth centralization will defend the billionaires that provide them with stuff they like, we’ll never escape that system until people realize that there are no good billionaires and that they all exist at the expense of the majority of the population.

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      Mainly because the wealthy are the ones who co tell the flow of (dis)information and have been making full on attacks against the quality of education we as citizens receive.

      When you don’t know any better, and you’re being told the sky is green and the grass is blue long enough, you start to believe it. Them in comes some know-it-all telling you you’re wrong and your belief system has been lying to you, and yeah you’re going to get mad at the know-it-all and cling tighter to your belief system.

      Big Scary Man Bad.

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      It’s not the billionaires doing the providing, it’s just that the economic engine is locked behind a paywall and so instead of laborers getting the value and credit it’s the owning class.

      The laborers should be the owning class. This is the core idea of socialism. I don’t get why “small government” types are so big on “own me harder daddy” when it comes to the economy. We spend most of our waking hours in dictatorships.

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        I don’t get why “small government” types are so big on “own me harder daddy” when it comes to the economy.

        Lots of these people are Petite Bourgeoisie, ie small business owners and the like. Their class interests align with larger Bourgeoisie, but the growth of larger Bourgeoisie pushes the Petite Bourgeoisie into proletarianization.

        This is where fascism comes in, actually. The Bourgeoisie and Petite Bourgeoisie unite against the Proletariat and Lumpenproletariat, along Nationalist lines, as a response to this proletarianization.

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        The Alt-Right Playbook does a good job of explaining it in this video, but basically what it comes down to is they believe in a rigid pyramidal structure, with everyone in their ‘proper place’. They also believe that, if we don’t have that rigid structure, our society will crumble.

        That’s also why they’re against UBIs, DEI, and other things that ‘promote people beyond their means’.

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        But they took the risk. The risk of spending loaned money at minuscule interest rates and offsetting any real losses by petitioning the state for handouts. They took the risk of making guaranteed profits on political donations leading to regulatory capture.

        The capitalism that people imagine (which I still wholeheartedly reject) isn’t even the capitalism that’s real in practice.

        Even putting aside the inherent inequality of risk having a significant coefficient applied to it that diminishes when you come from generational wealth and a family with the right connections.

        The myth of capitalist meritocracy is the most blatantly false myth that’s ever been peddled but it works on so many people. It’s mind boggling.

        Ironically things like UBI might level the playing field a bit in terms of entrepreneurship becoming more accessible, but for some reason capitalism advocates don’t actually want more people to be able to participate in capitalism.

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          Ironically things like UBI might level the playing field a bit in terms of entrepreneurship becoming more accessible, but for some reason capitalism advocates don’t actually want more people to be able to participate in capitalism.

          Because the moment someone is given something like UBI to help lift them up and provide an equitable playing field for everyone, you get some asshole focusing on how they don’t “deserve” it. As if the only thing you can possibly to in order to “deserve” to live is have a job where you are paid the bare minimum your company thinks they can get away with paying you so a few folks at the top get filthy rich and a few in the middle get rich enough not to think to much about the folks at the bottom.

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            Yep, and tell me how peopke born into richesses “deserve” it…

            It’s also the slippery slope towards the idea that some people are worth less and some more, as the rich worthless people with inflated egos needs to have something to project their useless souls onto, wanting to believe they are worth more “because they are inherently better”. And we all know where that leads to.

            So they are not just useless, but also dangerous.

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      your system is working as intended, every true democracy knows that lettings your politians get bought by corporation is a stupid idea, working exactky as written