I’m sure this will go well and is certainly much easier than having badges and security. It’s definitely not a massive ploy to harvest more data from the public and sell to the highest bidder
Doesn’t need to be your government who’s buying. The picture on your license also doesn’t come with meta data about your whereabouts when you decide to go to something as simple as a sporting event.
So you said the government would buy it, so I pointed out that the government already has a facial picture of you. Your counterpoint is that it doesn’t have to be the government, in which case, why did you mention it. And then you said it’s because it would have meta data on your location, which is weird considering you would have bought tickets with your name on them through payment methods tied to your name. This isn’t some local high school game we’re talking about here.
So you said the government would buy it, so I pointed out that the government already has a facial picture of you. Your counterpoint is that it doesn’t have to be the government, in which case, why did you mention it.
I said “government” would be a likely purchaser, not “the” government because I am not talking about any one government. I mentioned it to reinforce the point that any government is a potential buyer for the data, not just the government that has your ID on file, which is counter point to the point you tried to make that “the government already has a facial picture of you” referring to ID when this is not the case for all governments.
As a hypothetical example, I have never been to, or interacted with the government of South Africa. I doubt they have a picture of me. They could likely buy the data if they wanted to, which would give them a picture of me in the hypothetical scenario. They would not otherwise have access to a photo of me. I don’t know what is hard to follow about that.
And then you said it’s because it would have meta data on your location, which is weird considering you would have bought tickets with your name on them through payment methods tied to your name.
Yea, and my credit card which I buy the ticket with over the internet does not have a picture of my face with a timestamp verifiably showing that I was at the location, what I was wearing, who I may be with, etc.
You also understand that you can buy things with this neat thing called “Cash” right? Cash is really neat because it’s a payment method that doesn’t have your name on it.
This is my direct counter point to your statement “you would have bought tickets with your name on them through payment methods tied to your name”. Unless you want to deny the existence of physical money, you are plainly wrong here for reasons that are ibid.
You also know that tickets don’t typically have your name printed on them right?
You can go buy a ticket and examine it as close as you like. It is uncommon for them to have your name one them unless they are for some event you have been explicitly invited to, or you ordered them in advance for pick up or through some third party service.
Probably because the public is free to buy tickets for shows AT the location the event is held? And probably because you don’t have to show ID to buy such tickets unless you’re purchasing liquor with it or seeing an event rated for adults etc? Do they ask for your ID when you go to the ticket office at the movie theater? Cool, they don’t at ticket offices at stadiums either, so if someone has been asking you for that when you buy tickets, you should probably check if your identity was stolen because that’s not a requirement to get a ticket!
It’s almost like you could buy a ticket without your name printed on it using a method of payment which also doesn’t have your name printed on it. What a wild idea! It’s almost as if this is how this universally worked before people had debit/credit cards.
Oh and if it’s a cashless location, there’s another really cool thing you can do called “buying a gift card with cash” which gives you a cashless payment method without giving your name and face away which you can also use to purchase tickets as well as food and drink.
I’m sure this will go well and is certainly much easier than having badges and security. It’s definitely not a massive ploy to harvest more data from the public and sell to the highest bidder
Harvest what data?
Biometric data of individuals faces. Biggest buyer for that market would be law enforcement/government I’d expect.
I imagine the vast majority of people have driver’s licenses, the government already has a picture of your face.
That is a single datapoint and typically not recent. More data. More data. More data!
Locations and timelines, gait recordings, clothing… Advertisers will love to have that as well
Doesn’t need to be your government who’s buying. The picture on your license also doesn’t come with meta data about your whereabouts when you decide to go to something as simple as a sporting event.
Yeah, that information would just be conveyed by the tickets you paid for with your name on them.
Didn’t realize a picture of my face was on my football ticket as well.
So you said the government would buy it, so I pointed out that the government already has a facial picture of you. Your counterpoint is that it doesn’t have to be the government, in which case, why did you mention it. And then you said it’s because it would have meta data on your location, which is weird considering you would have bought tickets with your name on them through payment methods tied to your name. This isn’t some local high school game we’re talking about here.
I said “government” would be a likely purchaser, not “the” government because I am not talking about any one government. I mentioned it to reinforce the point that any government is a potential buyer for the data, not just the government that has your ID on file, which is counter point to the point you tried to make that “the government already has a facial picture of you” referring to ID when this is not the case for all governments.
As a hypothetical example, I have never been to, or interacted with the government of South Africa. I doubt they have a picture of me. They could likely buy the data if they wanted to, which would give them a picture of me in the hypothetical scenario. They would not otherwise have access to a photo of me. I don’t know what is hard to follow about that.
Yea, and my credit card which I buy the ticket with over the internet does not have a picture of my face with a timestamp verifiably showing that I was at the location, what I was wearing, who I may be with, etc.
You also understand that you can buy things with this neat thing called “Cash” right? Cash is really neat because it’s a payment method that doesn’t have your name on it.
This is my direct counter point to your statement “you would have bought tickets with your name on them through payment methods tied to your name”. Unless you want to deny the existence of physical money, you are plainly wrong here for reasons that are ibid.
You also know that tickets don’t typically have your name printed on them right?
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You can go buy a ticket and examine it as close as you like. It is uncommon for them to have your name one them unless they are for some event you have been explicitly invited to, or you ordered them in advance for pick up or through some third party service.
Probably because the public is free to buy tickets for shows AT the location the event is held? And probably because you don’t have to show ID to buy such tickets unless you’re purchasing liquor with it or seeing an event rated for adults etc? Do they ask for your ID when you go to the ticket office at the movie theater? Cool, they don’t at ticket offices at stadiums either, so if someone has been asking you for that when you buy tickets, you should probably check if your identity was stolen because that’s not a requirement to get a ticket!
It’s almost like you could buy a ticket without your name printed on it using a method of payment which also doesn’t have your name printed on it. What a wild idea! It’s almost as if this is how this universally worked before people had debit/credit cards.
Oh and if it’s a cashless location, there’s another really cool thing you can do called “buying a gift card with cash” which gives you a cashless payment method without giving your name and face away which you can also use to purchase tickets as well as food and drink.